Dan

Yes, he is. And I really can't blame him, nor do I mean to discourage him. It's good that some of us can have hope and remain optimistic. I've tried, I really have. I've set my sights pretty low for this season, and certainly game 1 of the preseason is too early to cash in on the season. But, I really was hoping Trent would have shown some amount of improvement. I hope Brohm shows us something on Thursday - not because I like Brohm so much; but mostly because I just can't see Trent suddenly changing his spots and turning into the leader we so desperately need.

Honestly, I wish people would just let this notion die. Levy's Bills were favored to win the division year in and year out, they went to 4 consecutive Super Bowls, there were pro bowlers at every position and several future HOFers, Levy didn't need to do much in the Preseason. This team, however, needs to prove it can play competent professional football. They're a far cry from that. So, yes, these preseason games mean a little more. Should they win them all - no. But, would't it at least be nice for them to look competent?

A slump is when an otherwise good player has a bad game or two. What we have with Trent is a bad player that's had a decent game or two. In other words, a couple of good games in 30 or so starts is a bad career, not a slump.

Thank you. I really want to like Trent as well. I just wish he'd show some fire out there and throw the ball sooner and with more decisiveness.

That was a highly subjective "blow to the head" hit. The instant replay sucked..imagine that. But, if he hit McNabb on the head it was with his pinikie. It wasn't a late it. What get me about Maybin is that he's one of the few guys actually trying to make a play; showing emotion; actually caring about winning; yet so many people are so ready to bash him. While, on the other hand, Trent who looks like he could care less about winning; walks around like he can't wait to get home and watch some TV; is given all the slack in the world.

I was not and still am not overly optimisitic about the season. But, wow. They looked worse than I could have imagined. Call it tired, call it injuries, call it what you want, but they didn't even look adequate. Can we please bench Trent. Please. I honestly can't imagine what the coaching staff sees in him. Is it me or does he just look completely disinterested out there?

He's not Trent. Did you watch any of that game yesterday? Did Trent do anything. anything, anything? Seriously, anything?

I do think... you'd be wrong about that.

Nice! The season is finally here! Good job, nice improvements. You need a name for your show, though.

This is what I got. Go Bills!

Good point. A rookie made a bad play; he should be cut. We all know a player never develops or learns anything.

I wonder how much of this initial depth chart is meant to motivate players and let them all know that no one is being given a position based on draft status? It'll be interesting to see where everyone lines up come September.

I like it. But, make those practices indoos at the fieldhouse, with the AC on, and you got yourselfa deal!

Yep, it can be tough sometimes. I try to use smilies for my sacasm, but sometimes forget. It's tough to practice in the NFL.

Sure.. then you'll want them doing live hitting during practice, too. huh?

They practiced in the rain? The rain? Chan is completely blowing it. Everyone knows you can't work properly in the rain and cold. If Chan's not careful, this team might just be tough enough to play outside. Unbelievable.

As if that's even possible....

Case in point...

Thank you. I was about to mention most of those guys too. Or how about Lynch. Bills fans, at least many around here, will pile on and dump on just about any one. Hell, there's a thread down there raggin on Marv Levy! The guys leads the team to 4 consecutive Super Bowls and that's still not good enough for some people. I'm not saying all Bills fans are the sour, sad lot. Not by any means. But, there's plenty of them out there based on the posts here. They look for any excuse to completely trash a player and then once he gets in the dog house, for whatever reason, he's there forever. I mean listen to the rants on Maybin... he didn't give up millions of dollars, sign immediately, and didn't transform his body size over the summer to become the prototypical DE. OMG!! He's now a bust that should be cut, asap. It's absurd. edit: BTW C.Biscuit, none of this is directed at your initial post. I think you were dead on right in your sarcasm.

I think that's being a little over the top. I'm a pessimistic as the next guy regarding this upcoming season - heck I even changed my avatar to reflect the death of the season. But, to say they made zero positive steps is not factual. They made several postive steps. The question is, did they make enough to keep pace with the rest of the division? I'm not at all convinced they did. But, readily welcome the season and the team proving me wrong.

One thing reading this board has taught me... Bills fans, as a whole, are not better than any other team's. A decade plus of losing has made for a bitter, sour lot.

I can't read all that.. the paragraph structure sucks. Bust!

Good question, too. I'd suspect there will be alot of running. Although it might make more sense to throw alot to get a good look at the QBs. So, who goes in second - Fitz or Brohm? I'd guess Fitz based on how they've been going in OTAs and Camp. Then they switch for game 2. It'll be interesting if Trent has a Carson Palmer type night.

Does Trent only play for 1 or 2 series in our first preseason game, like Romo and Palmer did? Or does he need to show more?