Dan

But, don't forget, half the posters here are clueless. We essentially made no major moves this offseason. On defense we lost Schobel and then traded a few B-list players for a B-list players. On offense we lost TO and then traded a few B-list players for a B-list players. We did completely change the coaching staff. The defense has fallen off a cliff as far as production goes. The offense has risen dramatically. I think the evidence is clear - Edwards sucks balls as a DC and Gailey is light years ahead of AVP at running an offense.

Agreed. /thread

They are definitely looking bad. Bad, bad. It amazes me they get all the press and hype that they do when they're looking this bad for several weeks now.

But how much of that is... he can't get on the field. I mean the guys not even dressing now. How's he supposed to learn the system and get that feeling for the game if he's sitting on the bench. I'm sure there's more to it that just that. But, it's kinda like how Steve Johnson was a bad WR last year sitting on the bench and now after 6 games, he's looking better and better. Sometimes, players take longer to get that feel for the game.

I know mold grows better at warmer temperatures and higher humidity (duh). Now, what's the critical temperature and relative humidity? I don't really know. But, if it's about 70 and fairly well ventilated, that could explain the lack of mold. A well-ventilated area will keep the humidity down; that's why bread in the plastic bag will get moldy well before bread just sitting out on a counter top. It'll be interesting to see how the shakes turn out. I'd expect them to get pretty moldly/bad relatively quickly in comparison to the burgers. So, in the end, maybe taking a relatively dry food and just setting it out doesn't really tell us anything about how long it takes the food to degrade. Maybe that's what you'll end up demonstrating above anything else; essentially, the McDonald's lady was just off-base in her conclusion that there's anything especially bad about a McD's burger.

Any idea what the temperature and/or humidity is in your house?

Agreed.

It's almost the best part of a completely blown call like that... watching all the talking heads go to all sorts of great lengths to defend what was so blatantly wrong. Just once, I'd like to hear someone come out and say... the Refs got it wrong and should be disciplined.

If I may be so bold as to presume what other posters are thinking... but it wasn't so much the initial prediction, but more so his comments after the game yesterday that's quite off base. Yes, make a prediction. But then when Fitz has a career game - the best by a Bills QB in 4 years or so; while putting more offensive yards on the Ravens defense than any opponent in 10 years - don't come back with a condescending, "I think we can all agree it's pretty evident at this point that [Fitz] is mediocre at best...". Had he come back and posted a simple... I was wong. I'm sure this thread would have died.

My guess.. they'd give him forward progress and mark it where he caught the ball. Unless, of course, his name is Nelson and the Bills are supposed to lose... then all bets are off.

Take a few tylenol and get some rest. It helps. FWIW... Bill says the the difference at RT was huge. I don't need to rewatch anything; Bill would tell us if Howard sucked balls. (Plus I watched the game too, and I wasn't drinking heavily.)

Thank you. That was essentially the point of my post - you just said it more succinctly. Either the officials are becoming exponentially more incompetent or games are fixed. I'm not even sure how the side judge ruled TD, initially. It was fairly obvious that the ball was coming out. Then to say you're not sure who had the ball, when the Dolphin player clearly gets up with the ball. In the Bills game they don't call a whistle on the Nelson play and allow a defenseless player to be held up, off the ground, until he's stripped. in the Fin game, they end the play in the middle of a fumble. So which is it... play until you hear a whistle or not? The inconsistencies and subjective nature of so many of today's penalties should alarm any fan of the game.

Premature postulation.

Thank you. I was hesitant to read this thread; but eventually had to confirm my initial assumption that even in the midst of a great offensive performance, there's still people that will find something to complain about. I guess we should take comfort in knowing that some things will never change. No matter what happens on Sunday, there will be someone at TSW on Monday complaining. In part, I think this team has sucked for so long that people no longer even know how to watch the game. The season isn't so much about watching football as it is calling out players and predicting drafts. Someone actually suggested yesterday... "if Fitz finishes as the #2 rated passer this season, we should trade him and draft a new QB". Clearly that individual has lost all ability to grasp the nuances of reality. The need for instant gratification has become rampant and veils entirely too many senseless comments and decisions.

Gotta be tied to the IP address. I travel quite a bit and notice the ads and crap change their location based on which town I'm in. So, cookies alone aren't going to do it. I've just assumed they're tracking the IP back to location. I've tried dumping all cookies, history, offline content, etc.; but they still track to location. And I agree, kinda creepy.

Agreed. And I, like the Ravens HC, the announcers, and probably just about everyone else in the stadium and at home, took a gasp and said aloud; "You gotta be kiddin' me! Where did that come from." Absolutely great play by Fitz and Evans. If they can start doing that with any level of consistency (hitting post routes down the 20-30 yds down the middle); the days of 8-9 in the box are done.

Rough night, huh? Hangovers can be a b:censored:h. Don't worry, it gets better.

I, for one, thought there was zero chance we'd tie the game. Fitz definitely stayed calm and displayed some great leadership.

No doubt Fitz is helping them look good. I'm not sure anyone is saying our line is looking great. But, with the "injury" to Green; Howard is looking decent along with the rest of the line. As I had been saying for quite some time, Trent was trying to take 4-5 seconds to scan the field and throw the ball. Our line just isn't that good. They need someone like Fitz that can throw the ball in 2-3 seconds and/or slide out just enough to create a lane to throw. The line is looking OK. Not great, but OK. Add in some good and quick decision-making by Fitz and the offense suddenly looks competent. At this point, I can only hope the line continues to play well together and improve such that it's no longer our most pressing need. And I'd say based on the score the last few games... they're well on their way to doing just that. That's a little more in line with what I saw.... quite a bit of blitzing (granted not the all out send everyone blitz). But, Jackson was doing a great job of picking up the blitzing LB or DB. Which gave Fitz just enough to complete the pass.

I'm guessing you were drinking a lot today? Way to go man.

My buddy, who's a Fin fan, was texting me throughout the game. He was flipping over to the Bills game. I flipped over to the Fin game just in time to see that the last of that series. Talk about a complete screw job! I told him at the time, the Refs would find a way to give it back to the Steelers because they're supposed to win. Sure enough we get the... we don't really know who got it so what the hey, let's give it to who's supposed to win anyway. Seriously, it's so hard not to believe the NFL is fixed sometimes when you see calls like that. It was blatantly obvious what the right call was, and there goes the Ref completely blowing it. Either he was on the take or he's completely incompetent. Either way he shouldn't be involved with another game.

It's easier to invent things like the tuck rule when no one can pull out a copy of the rule book and verify it. Hence, I'm pretty sure it's not online.

That's what I was thinking. It sucks to lose this game. They played more than well enough on offense to get the win. But, there are definitely a lot of positive things to take from the game. it should be the type of game the players can look at and build off of. They showed a lot today.

Agreed. Chan realized his mistake and benched Trent. Now he needs to accept that he made a mistake with Edwards. Fire the guy and promote anyone to be DC. It absolutely can't get worse. The players are out of position, the wrong defenses are being called, absolutely no adjustments. That's all bad coaching.

Green pulled his injury again getting some gatorade and is likely lost for the season. ...that's how Howard played.