Dan

Can all y’all give it a rest!? How about we start a thread and just call it the “piss and moan life sucks” thread. We play the Dolphins this week… and I was hoping to read about this week’s game here. Not hypothetical matchups in 2 or 3 months. And non stopping whining about how horrible our team and the FO is. Just go to Chiefs planet or Bengals Board of awesomeness and profess your love of their receivers there. Please. Just go.

Same here… but a first from the Bills is totally less than a first from most other teams. Point being, our first may not have been nearly enough. Not to mention, the dolphins (and jets) are in bad shape.. but even they see the problem with trading a starting WR to Josh.

I would argue, that if the Bills were losing by 6pts or less… they would have done more to move the ball at the end of the game. And at the very least, it would have been an easier FG attempt. Bills got the ball back with just over 4mins in the game, up by 7, and were clearly playing to run the clock down. They converted 2 first downs with great play calls to get to the 2 min warning. On the fringes of FG range, that's when the went into conservative mode with 3 dive plays to safely drain the clock. If Prater makes the kick, none of this is discussed. Similarly, I think if needed, the Bills could have gotten at least one more first down and iced the game. McD chose the long FG, and it nearly cost them. But, it was a good bet even if it made every one of us stop breathing for 22 game seconds.

Just to saying..yesterday’s win kinda changes things. The Bills’ Super Bowl window has been flung wide open. I say put all the chips in the table, trade whatever picks you need to… but get playmakers in that will put them over the top. Get the right players.. and it’s a legacy, career defining move if they make the Super Bowl. Do we really need a #32 pick next year? It’s not good to mortgage the future.. but in this instance… go for it all!

Sucks for the kid. Never want someone’s dream cut short like this. Hopefully, he does what’s best for a long, healthy life.

A few thoughts about the game. Its been suggested that the bills were sleepwalking through several games this year. Well yesterday we saw playoff football. There were several plays that I think they’ve been saving. For example, the third down pass to Cook. That play was absolute money and perfect. I’ve been hoping, just wishing they would do something like that but they’ve saved it and perhaps wisely so. With any luck, we don’t see that play again until the AFC championship game. There are other instances, like the heavy use of play action passes. All in all it was a brilliant game plan to beat KC. The fourth and 17 was absolutely horrible! But I kind of get it both are probably never thought he’d have that clean of a chance to hit Mahomes. And Bernard just blew it. But overall, there’s zero you can complain about on the defense. My only worry is going forward. Out two best defenders in the middle of the line are gone for the season. It’s gonna take a lot to overcome that. But that’s for another week. Finally, I suspected this before, and I’ll say it again, I think the crowd noise hurts the defense, perhaps more than it hurts the opposing team’s offense. The defense is relying on rookies to do a lot of communication and they seem to be out of sync. There were a number of players that were just running around, trying to get in position. I think that’s why we saw so many defensive timeouts. And I don’t disagree with it. I would never even suggest that the fans be quiet on defense. But the coaching staff and the players absolutely need to come up with some sort of signals or plan similar to how offenses do it. Bill’s mafia is not gonna be quiet on third down! It’s a good week! Go Bills!

They made the AFCCG last year. Currently they’re 5-2. How in the *%*% can you say the Bills can’t seriously compete for a title?

Absolutely expect Tre to get called for this twice.

Precisely. Honestly what people say here is not what’s important. It’s what the players believe and do, that matters. (I just hope players don’t have time to lurk and read the board because there are a more bad takes than good.)

I think the key to this game comes down to our pass defense. They looked good last week… but that’s because Dalton was slow and hesitant. Mahomes won’t be. I have a feeling we’re going to try and control the game with a running attack. While the Chiefs are going to go to the air looking for big chunks.

Whats the point of bringing up a game from 2020? I don’t get it.

Sums up the post season futility in one post.

The way I see it…Bills fans are extremely passionate when it comes to the team. Passion usually runs to the extremes. When all is good.. Bills passionate fans will be all in on their praise and support (including spending hard earned money to support players). But that passion gets flipped when things don’t go well. And the passion goes from unbridled love to.. get the bum out of town! Basically we’re the crazy ex girlfriend in this relationship.

I agree with this sentiment. And I think all Bills fans know… it’s the playoff wins that matter. However…. Currently in the AFC, loser of this game is lookin up at even a division win, let alone top seed in the playoffs. The Colts, Broncos, Patsies have changed the early season dynamic considerably. Much like week 1 wasn’t a make or break type game…but it put the Bills over the Ravens in any potential seeding down the road. A win Sunday… goes a long way to ensuring the same advantage over the Chiefs. There’s still a lot of games to be played. But in a season where KC already has 3 losses, the Bills have 2 and both are trailing in their divisions, I think this game is far more important than last year’s regular season matchup. Far more. Neither team’s season is over if they lose, but suddenly you’re talking wildcard spots, not top 1 or 2 seeds. And that is a pretty big deal.

I feel like I’ve said this for 20years… first it was Gronk, now it’s Kelce. Have a single player.. I don’t really care who… and they stay on him. If he blocks, you block him. If they run the other way… you stay on him. No matter what the play design is… you do not leave him. Ever. I can’t fathom how so many teams let him block for a second, then clean release because whoever was on him goes for the play fake (or Mahommes) and he walks out for a wide open 5-10yd completion.

There’s still a lot of football to be played. Anything can happen. But, this is the Bills. Despite all the amazingness of Josh and this team, we’re still a cursed franchise that finds crushing ways to lose games and seasons. I truly thought Josh was good enough to beat our curse. Last year, I genuinely believed we could make the Super Bowl. I literally could see envision it. Then.. the Chiefs game. Not even Josh with the ball in his hands and a few minutes away from the Super Bowl could do it. So…am I pessimistic. No. I fully expect the team to be in the playoffs (and quite frankly being a wild card team vs the 2 seed doesn’t seem to matter much). But do I expect them to be in the Super Bowl? Come on.. this is the Bills. I won’t believe that until it happens. And I won’t believe they’ve won one until about 5 mins after the game and I actually see a Bills player holding the trophy.

This is it in a nutshell. Last year, they made the move and brought in Amari Cooper. His stats weren’t eye opening at all. But, what he did do was make defenses respect the full field which opened up the underneath stuff more. Now… we don’t have that deep/boundary threat and defenses are loading up the middle of the field, closing the passing lanes and running delayed blitzes and stunts with great effectiveness. It’s easy to say… get a guy like Olave in. But, it takes 2 teams to make a trade. So I can’t fault Beane entirely if they don’t bring in another WR this week. BUT… Brady has to see this and do something different. They need to take shots down field, even if players aren’t open and Josh just throws the ball away. But they have to make defenses back up. Until they do that… the offense is going to sputter.

I don’t disagree… but I find one of the most glaring stat lines (other than the historically bad run defense) to be that Ty Johnson and Ray Davis have both COMBINED for 24 rushes, 89 yards total. Through 6 games. Hopefully, the run game gets fixed today as much as the passing game.

I really don’t disagree with you. I genuinely don’t have a lot of faith in this staff, either. I think most people don’t. They’ve come up short too many times in the same fashion to not have us all on edge. I don’t know how the season is goo to pan out. I don’t think many teams out side of maybe the Chiefs and Colts are looking super good in the AFC. And honestly, I don’t think the Chiefs look that good… I just think the league is going to make sure they’re hosting playoff games for whatever reason. I just hope the Bills can catch a break and shock the world. Go Bills!

No, I’m not questioning you or anyone’s loyalty/fandom. We’re all here talking the Bills because we love this team and all it represents in our hearts. I just think some folks are seeing an empty glass, when it’s easily more than half full. This team has more talent than you want to see. The notion that they’ll tank the season, bottom out and Pegula makes a clean sweep is ..remote.. to say the least. So why not enjoy the team we have and dream of another playoff run, as opposed to hope for a complete collapse and top 5 draft pick? I’m certain the former is much more likely than the later.

In what reality does a team need all that you described to be considered good? I get it ..the hope of a better tomorrow is more attractive than having the Super Bowl contending team we currently have. Given the odds of actually winning the Super Bowl, I suspect you’ll get to gloat about being right and you knew all along how bad the team was, soon enough. I would just suggest you’re a few months too soon to cheer their demise.

Why do I feel like a number of posters here… secretly wish/hope for a loss and collapse of the team? I know a lot of posters want to be right and about the coaching and Beane being the worst ever, but this is drought era thinking. The Bills are 4-2. Your desire to be right about predicting their demise should not exceed your desire to see the Bills win. Go Bills! Always and forever. (Even when Rex was the HC and we all knew that was going to end bad, even before he bought his fancy truck)

Totally agree with this. Get rid of the half the distance to the goal, all together. If you're at the 5 and get a 5 yd penalty, ball is placed on the goal line. If you’re at the 4 the ball is placed at the goal line and its 1st an 11. An alternative idea.. that would be highly impactful would be. If the penalty yards exceeds the field distance (false start when you're on the 4yd line). Its a safety. Done. Agreed. Just as they rule some passes as uncatchable, hence no pass interference. An underthrown ball should be treated the same way. WRs should not be allowed to impede the defender for underthrown passes. The one I don't think I saw mentioned is the 5yds and automatic first down for defensive holding. How many times do you see 3rd and 14, incomplete pass. Woops holding on the other side of the field. 5yds automatic first down. Just asses the 5yds. I get the concern about defenders then just holding anytime its 3rd and longer than 5… but they need to find a way to stop giving the Chiefs free first downs because someone not even in the play held for a split second. Maybe 5 yds and replay the down?

No way in hell you make a move like this now. But after the season… if they fail in a similar fashion in the playoffs. You have to start thinking you have a Marty Shottenheimer situation and make some big boy decisions. You don’t want to blow the entire team up… but something has to be done to get this team over the hump, injuries or not.

Very good points, all around. Basically what I said. LOL. I've been thinking… they got stuffed with the tush push in the championship game, so its like they’re making a very concerted effort to do other things in those situations. Almost like they’ve decided to try and be smarter and get ahead of it.. but instead they look too cute. Mostly because they're trying other things that just aren’t working or are appropriate for needing 1-2 yds in critical moments. Is it me… or does the offense from the last 2-3 weeks not even look like the same offense as the first 3 weeks?