Kirby Jackson

Allen was guaranteed $150M (not all at signing). We don’t know, from the rumors, if the guaranteed value of Jackson’s offer was greater than the $133M. The market has moved. IMO, anything under $200M guaranteed won’t get it done. I don’t think that it needs to be fully guaranteed like Watson but the guaranteed percentage needs to be much closer to 100% of the contract value than it is now.

It has a little of the Nebraska (or even LSU) feel to me. The “expectation” is to be better than 10-4(ish). That’s probably fair at LSU with their history/alumni/recruiting base. It doesn’t feel fair at Wisconsin or 2022 Nebraska. If Nebraska finished 10-4 they should build a statute of the coach. Chryst wasn’t capable of taking Wisconsin beyond what he did. I’m not sure that anyone is. I like Leonhard a lot. I get the desire to try to hit a HR like ND has tried to do with Freeman. We will see if either works out. If not, Wisconsin could revert back to a “Maryland-type” of program.

I’ll book this bet. The Ravens have already offered him over $49M per year and $133M guaranteed (a bit of an insulting guarantee). If you think that they’re, “looking to move on” you have no idea what that looks like. If they can’t get it worked out they’ll go the Cousins route and continue tagging him.

Pittsburgh stinks. The Bills played a good half after 3 straight bad 1/2’s. Maybe they are starting to roll like after the 2nd half of Tampa last year? If that’s the case, watch out!!! Last year I was POSITIVE that the Bills were going to crush the Steelers. This year I’m going to bite my tongue. It seems like those teams always play close games. Obviously I think that the Bills will win but I’m not going to predict a 4-score win like I thought was coming last year.

He’s just so dangerous and can play anywhere. The guy is a winner and a great big game player. Everyone seems to love playing with him. It feels like the type of move that championship teams make. He would fit in perfectly.

I heard shoulder 🤷🏻‍♂️

The Bills should bring in OBJ. Discuss…

Are you trolling?

Playing Lamar is obviously tough. That wasn’t a “gameball-worthy” performance IMO. I think that he may be an all-pro. He’s very valuable. He was rough early.

I’m seeing a lot of Milano. The 1st half might have been the worst half that I’ve seen him play. Missed tackles and overpursuing. It certainly got better. I think that he’s very, very good. I didn’t think that he was today.

Poyer Bass Frazier Josh Shaq Lawson

Moss is the worst player on the team. That’s not up for debate

Can’t undo that now. Sunk cost, Moss stinks. Motor will be a FA. Cook looks like a role player.

Hit on a defenseless receiver

Can you win a Super Bowl with McDermott? I know that he can coach a good team but can he coach a Super Bowl winner? He’s TRAGIC with the clock.

If the Bills try Moss in short yardage again I’m going to send a nasty letter to Dorsey

Gross

That’s fair I’m not suggesting that they don’t. I’m challenging us to be better than that. It was so annoying when the Bills weren’t good. It’s incredibly cringe with a team that is +400 to win the Super Bowl. Act like you’re good enough Lol, go back to the start and see when and where race entered the conversation. You wanted to talk about it -not me.

Nope, again, that’s not what was said. You are free to pick whoever you want as the best player. I’d take Allen over any player in the league. What I said, and continue to say, is that I don’t need to pretend Lamar is bad to make Josh look good. You should argue the merits of what Josh does well. It’s not, “Josh, because Lamar sucks.” It is “Josh, because he has an incredible combination of skills.” Downplaying someone to prop up your guy is BEYOND weak. That’s the insecure old ways of Bills fans. The Bills are elite now. We can talk about why the Bills are elite without worrying about anyone else. If you embellish/downplay the accomplishments of any player, that’s lying. If you don’t think that Tom Brady has had the greatest career that a QB has ever had, you’re lying. He holds every single record and has won 7 Super Bowls. There isn’t another option. That doesn’t mean that you have to like him. I hate him. No one talked about race until you said, “I’m not racist or anything but_____.” My original comments had ZERO to do with race. I’m not sure why you brought it up? I was waiting for, “I’m not racist I have (insert number here) of black friends.” You don’t need to yell “I’m not racist.” We aren’t talking race. We try to avoid that on TBD. We are talking elite QBs. He leads the league in TDs and has the highest scoring team in football. He’s the QB of a good team. That’s who wins MVPs. That’s not “silly.” There is a long way to go but what about Lamar isn’t MVP-worthy at this point?

I have a weird feeling that today is the day that Knox gets involved.

The main reason is accessibility of tickets. In the early ‘90’s places like StubHub didn’t exist. It was WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY harder to get tickets. I started attending road games during the drought and we were always well-represented. We traveled as well as anyone then. Now, it’s a whole different level. There is a noticeable gap, in every city, between Bills fans and every other fan base. It’s wild. I lived in New Orleans for 14 years so we saw LOTS of different fan bases come as their “destination game.” Pittsburgh, Dallas and SF always had lots of fans. They are NOWHERE near as organized as Bills fans either. Every Bills fan knows where to go 2 nights before, the day before, the night before and the tailgate. It is one giant pre-planned trip.

It’s a little bit of both. I travel, often, for Bills games (although I’m not there this week). We typically have a LARGE group (always 20+) and it’s a mix. It’s probably 90% traveling, but not all from Buffalo. That % drops a little in certain cities (haven’t been to them all) with people that relocated there (NY, Miami, Cleveland, Boston, Charlotte, Atlanta, Tampa). If I had to guess that 90% probably holds true most places. There are a LARGE contingent that travel from somewhere. In LA, it was FILLED with Bills fans that had relocated west, not necessarily LA though. When I lived in New Orleans we always went to Houston for example because it was only a 4-5 hour trip.

Oh great!! These guys always give Brady all of the calls!! Doomed!!!

…if you asked “the Ravens fan version of you” (homer that always feels attacked) they would say, “the media gives Josh Allen too much credit.” Stop whining and take a step back. Both guys are amazing. Both deserve tons of praise. You do not need to discredit the other to prop up Josh. His play has earned him plenty of accolades and attention. Lamar deserves all of the praise he is getting right now. This is the OLD Bills fan thinking and it used to piss me off when we were bad. “Why does everyone think Brady is so good? He cheats.” They guy has been to 10 Super Bowls. We don’t need to drag others down to feel better about ourselves. Have some confidence in your team. It’s okay to admit that others are good. That doesn’t make you less of a fan.