Kirby Jackson

I don’t think it’ll be a “mass migration” but we will see some attrition. The only mass migration will be he people that were in the lower level between the 30’s. Those were the most underpriced seats in all of pro sports. Those people will move away from midfield or up. The people that we are hearing from now are the most vocal. I’d be curious to know what percentage of the people that have gone so far have declined. We know that some have been vocal but how many have declined? There are also people out there that aren’t current ticket holders because they couldn’t get a desirable enough location. We will see some of these people entering at the $50k PSL. It isn’t an enormous universe but when you look at the whole region (Toronto, Rochester, etc..) that will offset some of those people lowering their spend. I should be coming up soon (got the call the other day). It sounds like my PSL will be higher than I originally anticipated (at least I think). I was anticipating like $12k a seat ($15k on the high end). I think that it’ll now be $20k a seat. That’s annoying but I’m not likely to bail over it. The way that I’m looking at it, is an extra $20k (after finance fees over 10 years). It’s $2k more a year than I hoped. That sucks but I blow money on stuff that I care WAY less about than the Bills all of the time.

A suite is a private area owned by a company or individual with a certain number of tickets. A club is an area with upgraded amenities but you just have tickets there. That’s the most basic way to explain it. That $30K number is (likely) the per ticket PSL for the right to buy that seat. The suite licensing is a whole different ballgame. That could be as high as 7 figures.

That’s clubs not suites

I really think that we are going to see drastically lower PSLs as future areas of the stadium are revealed. The ones that we are seeing now are “best amenities and best locations.” That was always going to be the highest end of the spectrum. If they sell well the future tiers will be drastically lower. If they don’t sell as well future tiers will be a lot lower but not as low as they would have been with a successful rollout of the most expensive locations.

Love Tre!! Wish him the best in LA

I think that the NFL has learned that you can put ANYBODY on those random games and get ratings. At the same time, it feels like a Cardinals - Chargers game isn’t what they’re looking for to make a “statement.” Bills - Chiefs would be the highest rated game all year.

That’s an antiquated way of thinking. The salary cap has changed that. With WRs now getting $30M annually, you can no longer afford to pay a top QB AND top WR. You need to get elite WRs on rookie deals (especially with the 5th year option). Pass rushers are similar too. You NOW do trade future 1sts for elite players at those positions (see Anderson, Will).

It is. You can pay it interest free over like 18 months or finance it over 10 years (at least I think it’s 10).

It did. The Bills have given up 33 PPG to KC in the playoffs (at least I think that’s the number). There’s no reason to believe a larger investment there improves it at all. It’s a scheme problem more than a talent problem defensively. If, big IF, the Bills are going to win a Super Bowl it is because of Josh Allen. Let’s call it what it is and stop pretending it’s anything else. Elite QBs are the biggest reason for Super Bowl titles. We have one!! Let’s not hope that he elevates Kumerow or Sherfield or Benjamin, Isabella or whatever other trash WRs we surround him with. Let’s give him an elite player on the outside and create the best offense in football. Let’s have everyone keep up with us. Let’s be the 2013 Broncos or the Greatest Show on Turf Rams.

The PSL numbers out there are surprising (and higher than expected). With that being said, I’d like to see the number of tickets at each pricing threshold. I sit in the club by th goal line. I was expecting $12k(ish) for a PSL. Now, I’m expecting $20k but don’t have my time yet. That’s annoying and gives me a little more pause before committing. I almost certainly will but it’s more than I expected for my location/amenities. If I’m paying for it, I want to see what else I’m getting. In London, we say in the “equivalent” of our seats in OP. The buffet was included and food throughout the game. If we are following suit here, it makes it more palatable. Lastly, there has been a lot of talk about how, “they won’t show you the the pricing options.” My guess, is that none of that has been finalized yet. There is almost certainly an algorithm that states, “if we sell ‘X’ club seat PSLs the lower level PSLs will cost ‘y’ and upper level PSLs will cost ‘z.’” That’s a moving target though. They are working back from the revenue number that they need to hit. The more $50k PSLs are sold, the better off those people later on will be. My $.02

The mock draft threads have become the best threads of the year. They are interesting. People do the research & take their responsibility seriously. We end up with a pretty realistic look at the decisions teams will have to make.

This!! 9 is the earliest that I could see the Bills getting.

I heard some draft expert on WGR talking about Legette’s one year of production. He basically chalked it up to terrible coaching. The new coach came in before the bowl game and that was Legette’s breakout. He has been great since. He just wasn’t used prior. They played in the Gator Bowl vs. Notre Dame and he caught 2 TDs.

I think that athletic upside is there despite testing poorly. It’s the separation that shouldn’t be overlooked. With the exception of Nico Collins, guys that couldn’t separate in college, struggled mightily in the pros. Coleman has been good on contested catches because he didn’t create space. He made them contested. I don’t have any interest in a 4.6 guy that can’t separate. If you want a big target, take a shot on Legette and his freak athleticism.

I just can’t wrap my head around people thinking this way. The Bills lost their number 2 WR, haven’t replaced him. They have an aging #1, on a contract that they didn’t restructure so that they could get out next year. We are talking about trying to add the next Justin Shorter for depth?!? Seriously? Why would we not give our best player the support that he needs?!? Fortunately Beane isn’t thinking this way. He has plenty of depth guys and long term developmental guys. He needs a star. This draft has a bunch of them. The Bills will 100% pick a WR by 60. They need the top of the depth chart there, not the bottom.

The problem with not watching games, only highlights, is that a guy like Keon Coleman shines in highlights. You don’t see his lack of separation. He’s not in my top 10 (and maybe not top 15) targets for the Bills for that reason. Listening to Beane talk about receivers, it sounded like Ladd McConkey to me.

As stated, he was not signed to be WR 2. He was signed to be a weapon.

MHJ is a monster. He’s EASILY 1200 yards and 8-10 Tds as a rookie. If the Bills had a chance to get him they’d be crazy not to. Unfortunately, I’m not sure that’s realistic. I can’t see the Bills getting higher than 9 with the Bears. I think that they’ll be making that call if Odunze, Nabers or MHJ were still on the board. I just don’t see it as likely.

Yes, but it isn’t so much about “Diggs replacement.” Getting a potential #1 WR, on a rookie deal, regardless of what happens with Diggs, is the top priority.

Good move

Yeah, Coleman for me isn’t in my top 10 WR targets. While he could be the guy that takes off, there are far too many questions. If I’m going to roll the dice on the athletic freak, it’s Xavier Legette for me. Here are 10 WRs that I prefer over Coleman (in no particular order): MHJ, Nabers, Odunze, Thomas, Mitchell, Worthy, Legette, McConkey, Pearsall, & Franklin. Cowing, Roman Wilson, Corley and the other 2 UW guys would also be in the conversation.

London was not on that list. Collins was the only guy that was even serviceable at the next level. They then did the other end of the spectrum and all of those guys were good. There are exceptions to every rule, ie Collins, but I’m concerned with guys that can’t separate.

For those talking about Coleman there was some talk about WR separation last week on WGR. I take most of what they say with a grain of salt but they went over the WRs with the least separation over the last 5-10 drafts. I don’t remember the number. With the exception of Nico Collins, all of the guys were garbage. Coleman doesn’t get any separation. Take that fwiw but I am not interested in Coleman (and I’m team WR).

I don’t disagree. The lack of stars has been frustrating. The Bills ended up with 1 of the top 101 players from 2023 according to PFF. As good as Josh is, you need more. Hopefully with Milano returning you have another star. Taron Johnson, Ed Oliver, Diggs, Cook, Kincaid, and Dawkins can each be elite.