Kirby Jackson

It’s not though. Why would the Browns just take Allen when they can trade down a spot and get him? They can turn around and trade 12 & 35 for 6 and get Chubb. They basically get the guys that they were taking at 1 & 4 and turn the 35th pick into the 22nd pick. It’s a no-brainer for Cleveland.

Except the Browns are going to take Allen either way. They can either take the assets offered and get pick 2 or just take Allen at 1. The 2019 1st HAS to be the absolute last asset added. The scenario Hokie laid out makes a ton of sense.

Except the Bills would be adding in their best asset. They can do it without the 2019 1st.

I was thinking that the Browns get 22 and the Giants get 53 and a 2019 4th. Bills: 1st Browns: 2, 12, 22 and 2019 2nd Giants: 4, 53, 96 and 2019 4th

Just realized that...you are right The Browns need more (and a lot more).

That’s kid of what I think. The Giants and Browns get the guy that they want anyways and pick up a bunch of assets to do so. The Bills preserve 22, 56 and 65. This trade can only work in a 3 team scenario.

So how about this: Bills get: 1st Browns get: 2nd, 53rd and a 2019 2nd Giants get: 4th, 12th, 96th

That’s what I am thinking. Darnold is our guy.

There is definitely smoke here. These aren’t clickbait guys. It sounds like whatever is out there is super complicated.

That has to be us. Also, that 3 team trade that has been thrown around maybe is the one? I don’t think it is a standard picks to move up. That isn’t crazy or head spinning.

One would assume so. They have been involved in just about every possible rumor that has been out there. I wouldn’t be surprised if that was an OBJ rumor too. I think anything involving him would constitute crazy. Maybe Beckham to the Pats?

Yeah, I guess that I took that as an assumed. There are players I wouldn’t want but at a certain point they present good value. I would be fine with Michel at 22 despite the needs of this team.

At 22?

Yep and the board will go nuts if he’s picked at 22. FWIW, I’m told that the Bills are really high on Guice. I said a year ago I thought that Guice would be a better pro than Fournette. We will see but he is just more diverse imo.

Guice, Jackson, Michel

So did Christian Hackenberg

There are tons and tons of videos of him on YouTube.

Not sure if people here are familiar with Stingray but if not:

Life in prison and he killed his cell mate in 2011 or 2012 so now he has no chance for parole.

I think that we should have a short timed test as a part of the registration process. It should be simple enough that 90% of the people pass it but the 10% that don’t should not be members of this community.

I wouldn’t have Thruman in my top 10 but he would be top 20ish. He was a complete back but didn’t have the game breaking ability of some others. He was a great fit on that Bills team because he could block, catch, run and kept the offense diverse.

Haynes would have been my other option. I have real concern about that LB group but Haynes and Leonard would make me feel a little better.

I voted Dashawn Hand based on the talent and versatility. It wasn’t that long ago that he was the top recruit in the country. I held of on CB because I think Avonte Maddox from Pitt is their target in the 4th or 5th. They’ve really shown an interest in him. Kerryon doesn’t do much for me. I know he was dinged up vs. Alabama but he looked a step slow. I’m not a big fan of upright runners either. There are other backs that I prefer.

I referenced it in another thread but a Bills - Browns trade makes more sense. The Bills give up 12, 22 and 56 (as an example) for pick 4. The Browns turn around and trade 12 and 35 for 6 or 7 (and still get their elite guy). The Browns will start the draft with something like Allen, Barkley, and then have 22, 33, 56, 64.

#comebackszn