Kirby Jackson

This is the kind of thing that separates good ownership from bad. The Pegulas did something similar with the Sabres locker room a few years back. The Bills facility has always been near the top of the league. These upgrades are another example of the Pegulas legitimately caring about their players. This $18M upgrade isn’t a revenue generator for them. It is a recruiting tool and an effort to keep players safer. This is just the kind of thing that good people do. Kudos to Kim and Terry for this!!

I’ll point to KC last year. Alex Smith was a legit MVP candidate. He is not there. Neither Peterman nor McCarron is in that league. Teams are looking for their guy to play. The Bills aren’t evaluating 3 guys. They are preparing Allen. This is way different than the last time 3 QBs we’re battling for the Bills job. They have already decided on the guy. Allen’s timeline isn’t impacted by the placeholders in front of him. He is the guy as soon as he is ready. The Bills intentionally left the path clear. They didn’t get a temporary guy until everyone else did. They don’t want any sort of controversy. They wanted to bring him along without roadblocks.

That’s where we disagree. McCarron and Peterman have nothing to do with Allen. He is their concern. They aren’t trying to identify who is “the guy” moving forward. They already did that. It is Allen. Their plan is to develop him.

I’ve been saying that they may only keep 2 QBs for 6 months. It doesn’t look so crazy now. McCarron & Allen with Peterman on the practice squad. I’d only keep 2 but I suspect that they will keep 3.

You don’t think that the Bills want Allen to get more reps vs. better competition? At some point soon they are going to slide him up the depth chart. Maybe it won’t be after preseason game 1 (I suppose it could be game 2) but it won’t be more than that. The Bills want him out there for the experience.

I get some of it and it’s tough. I take Zoloft daily, Pamalor at night and Klonopin as necessary. It seems to work. I too recommend a dog. My dog is my best friend.

To piggyback on this, if it doesn’t work right away I think that talent and/or execution are more likely to be the issues. We may not see the results of Daboll’s offense for a while.

As of today I would say that the opening day starter looks like this: - McCarron 65% - Allen 30% - Peterman 5% This can all certainly change but is how I see it as of today.

I’m a fan of the Daboll hire because I think he will work to his talent. My concern is that the OL and pass catchers aren’t talented. They handed him spam and asked him to win a James Beard award. If the Bills are patient with him he is going to be an asset (until he gets a HC job). I think that Frazier is a really good coach as well. It looked like he had a shot at that Colts job. If the defense has another good year he may be interviewing again next year. I’d love to keep that group (with some position coach upgrades) in tact.

It was tired when he was here and it’s kind creepy that your still talking about him 6 months later. TBD - “What do you guys think of Daboll’s offense?” Shady - “It was such a relief to watch Nate as a passing QB.” - scene

You only post about Tyrod anyways. It’s really kind of weird. You got called out for it 3 or 4 times this week!! This thread was on the design of Daboll’s offense and you started talking about what a relief it was that Nate was a passing QB. Not sure what that has to do with the design of the offense? Also not sure that a guy that was 24 of 49 for 252, 2 TDs and 5 INTs qualifies as a “passing QB.”

I’ve never seen anyone use that argument here. Maybe I’m not paying attention? The league spoke pretty loudly on their opinion of McCarron this offseason. He got half of what guys like Bridgewater and McCown did. He can be a decent placeholder. I don’t believe that Peterman can. He isn’t an NFL QB. He has horrendous pocket presence and terrible decision making. When pressure comes he is at his worst. That’s why he always does well on shorts and a t shirt but not when the bullets fly. It has been that way since his time at Pitt. They called him “Nervous Nate.” Allen needs to be viewed independently of the other 2. He’s on his own schedule. When he starts is dependent on Allen, not the other 2. He’s going to get the job at some point. We just need to hope that when he does he is the guy that we all hope he is. If not, we will be looking again in 2020.

Thinking a guy is bad and hating him are different. I think Peterman is a bad QB. AJ couldn’t beat out Dalton. The offense actually declined quite a bit when AJ took over for Dalton. AJ is a decent game manager that isn’t going to make a lot of mistakes or plays. He’s like having Brian Hoyer or someone of that quality. If they have to play for a month they won’t kill you.

I know I won’t be eating it. I’m right.

They will wait until the 1st preseason game for that. That is also when Allen will be elevated from the 3’s. They will eliminate one of Peterman or McCarron by the conclusion of the 1st preseason game. Then it will be dependent on Allen’s development as to whether or not he is ready for opening day. It’s 2 different things going on. Allen’s development is independent of the competition between Peterman and McCarron.

Vikings, next question...

Sitting in Metry as we speak.

That’s why I like it. I think it’s almost impossible for me to lose at this point. I MAY win with Allen and at worst it is no bet. It’s house money at this point. In fact, I’m going to offer @BurpleBull the opportunity to buy his way out of this bet. For this hat: https://www.shopthebills.com/buffalo-bills-hat---heather-hype-fitted.aspx and an admission that Peterman will never be good I will let him out.

I’ll say this today I feel pretty good about my bet on the opening day starter. Allen vs. Peterman with McCarron as a no bet. I have a decent chance to win (Allen) and a very small chance to lose (Peterman). The likely scenario is McCarron (which doesn’t cost me anything).

I like your contract offer. I’d offer Shaq, a 2019 2nd and 4th and a 2020 2nd that can become a 1st if he has 10+ sacks in each of the next 2 seasons.

I spent my first 26 years in WNY (and Boston for college) and the last 11 in New Orleans. While New Orleans is ungodly hot in the summer I’ll take that all day long over shoveling. The heat index hit 116 degrees last week and was as miserable as I remember. At the same time it isn’t much to go play golf when the heat index is 100+. You just get used to it. Southern California is the answer to the question though. It’s consistently nice. You don’t have highs and lows. 70’s and 80’s year round would be perfect.

That’s the guy that sings the anthem at Sabres games and points.

Barr has to go then right? Maybe thats why wrapped up Hunter?

Yeah, I’m comfortable dropping McCarron into the next tier with Siemian and Anderson. There are a handful of guys that can be debated for 3. I think it’s pretty tough to have anyone but Tyrod and Fitz as 1 & 2. It really is a truly awful list of sucktitude. Bruce Gradkowski is unquestionably in the top 10%. It really does provide some perspective as to what we are looking at.