Kirby Jackson

I’m always patient when dealing with a situation like this. I always give the benefit of the doubt. I’d probably call her in on Monday and ask “what happened?” Give her a chance to explain herself and then go through the appropriate way to handle it moving forward.

That’s tough. Wynn is going to be a great player IMO. This is a big blow. Hope that he recovers.

I don’t care who starts at the beginning. I care that Allen is the guy we are hoping for. Other than that it makes no difference to me.

I was going to start a separate thread on this but decided to leave it here. Where does Teddy wind up? If I were the Jags, I’d take a swing. The Bucs, Dolphins and Broncos make some sense. I also could see a team with an aging starter trying to bring him in as their next guy (Pittsburgh, New Orleans, Giants, Pats, Chargers).

If I were the Steve Buscemi character in Billy Madison, Scott Zolak’s name would be written on my wall.

Why? He will obviously gameplan to beat that. The point being, they’ve already taken away what he does best. It’s not that difficult to gameplan against. It’s difficult to execute those types of plays. You can throw fades all day. They are just tough to complete. That’s fair. I’m not saying that it will be easy to execute for either side. The question that I raised is “if you take away the quick timing routes can Peterman be effective?” Maybe you and Wagon Circler are right and Daboll can get guys free. He can use motion and different formations to do that. He has a much better chance to do it than Dennison.

Well there is a certain member of this board that was really high on Martez Carter. I wonder who that was ?? p.s. If Carter turns into a player I will never let anyone forget how early I adopted him.

GB does have 2 1sts. They can put together a competitive offer.

I think that’s all fair. The point I was making is that you can’t get rid of the ball in under 2 seconds if the guys aren’t open. That’s why teams will play that way against Peterman. They will take away all of the quick routes until he proves that he can make the other throws. He hasn’t done that yet. The throw to KB was a start. We will see I guess...

I don’t know if I’m just overly optimistic but I think he’s going to end up on the Bills.

I expect a variety of defenses against them. They are much more likely to beat press man. They are better down the field. I don’t think that either of them has a kryptonite. I mean are you disagreeing that Peterman will struggle if defended like that?

Those are all fair questions. The irony is that’s basically why Dennison got fired. He pushed for Peterman because he thought that he was the best guy to execute his offense. It just revealed how easy that offense is to defend. Peterman made that throw to Benjamin last week for the TD. If he can consistently do he will keep the DBs honest. That was absolutely progress. I was simply pointing out that he’s much, much easier to defend than Allen (and to a lesser extent Peterman). Peterman may throw those slants more consistently but the other guys (especially Allen) can throw more routes. They make the Bills offense more diverse IMO.

Don’t you guys expect an actual NFL defense in an actual NFL game to play press man all over the field against Nate? They will take away all quick passes (especially slants). I mean, I know basically nothing and know exactly how to defend him. If you disrupt the timing of the timing routes I don’t know how he can succeed? It isn’t complicated at all. If I am a DC he’s going to have to consistently make plays like the TD throw to Benjamin. The receivers are going to have to beat the press and Peterman is going to have to make plays over the CBs. NO ONE that has watched him is going to allow his receivers a free release. The 3 stop drop, balls out isn’t going to be a viable option.

I always love this explanation. It was everyone letting him down. No need for excuses. It wasn’t “everyone was bad so that’s why he struggled. They sabotaged him.” This is the root of my issues with Peterman. People want to baby him and excuse him for playing terribly. It’s okay to say he was awful but has been okay otherwise. Please, please, please don’t try to justify the Chargers performance.

You need to calm down there Joffrey Baratheon

Yeah, I’m not sure if he’s a color commentator either. I think that he’s a studio show guy. He needs to be opinionated and that’s the best place to do that. Let him weigh in on things like the Ramsey comments, Calloway’s arrest, etc...

“But no one will expect it...”

He hasn’t done that though. He’s been sacked at like a 10% clip (which is atrocious). I like McCarron but he hasn’t consistently beaten pressure.

Whaley wanted Hue Jackson. I’m not saying that would (or wouldn’t) have worked but he can’t be blamed for Rex.

I don’t get why people think he will get a defensive job? His defense doesn’t work anymore. We saw that first hand. It was a steady decline, he left, they were good again. The Ryan defense is a thing of the past.

Except when they actually have real pressure. Peterman is NOT good against it. He’d probably tell you that. He makes tons of mistakes against the blitz. Allen is the guy that will punish the blitz. He big, strong and mobile. He will step out of the rush and hit some big plays. McCarron is a sitting duck. He lacks the mobility of the other 2.

Nope, what he teaches is dead. I used to think recruiting was his thing. I don’t believe that anyone is hiring him. He is Lane Kiffin with a dead style. Kiffin is an idiot but will always have a job because what he does works. People will stomach his personality because the results are there. That’s no longer the case with Rex. What he used to do doesn’t work.

Man, we have short memories around here. He has an antiquated style with a bombastic personality. No one is hiring him (or his brother) to coach football again.

No, next question....

Also, is this the thread that we are allowed to mention what an idiot Todd Haley is? Between he and Gregg Williams I feel for Hue Jackson. He seems like a nice guy and there is 2 morons.