Kirby Jackson

The only place that we disagree is that not all 32 teams are private. 31 are and that is a part of the reason that it is difficult to enforce. In general, I agree with your sentiment. FWIW, I wouldn’t sign either of these guys because the juice isn’t worth the squeeze. If Khalil Mack was the guy doing this I would be all for adding him. If I thought that these guys could impact the team I’d be all for it. I don’t think that the media attention and distractions are worth it for these guys. 100% agree

They “should” be. It has already been determined that you cant punish someone for something that they “should” do. That’s why guys can (and are) still kneeling with no repercussions.

The bolded word is why it can’t and hasn’t been enforced. “Should” isn’t a requirement. That has already been challenged and decided. If they changed it to “must” it would be different but they can’t do that without the player’s approval.

No confusion at all. The Packers are a part of the public sector. The constitution can’t restrict them from expressing themselves.

No confusion here. The constitution allows 1st amendment rights in the public sector and its restricted in the private sector with some exclusions. So an NFL team, while privately owned partners with the public sector in many areas. The league (and all leagues) defer to the collective bargaining agreement between the players and owners. They decide the rules and regulations that will govern the business. The result is that the league doesn’t punish players or restrict their ability to exercise those rights. Whether you like it or not that IS how it is being handled. It may change at some point but if it does it won’t because of the constitution. It will be because the players and owners reached an agreement that they are both comfortable with. The owners can’t function without the players and the players can’t function without the league.

There is nothing in the collective bargaining agreement between the players association and the employers restricting it. Hence, there is no punishment for it. Hope that clears things up.

Nope, but just to be clear this isn’t a rule. It’s a recommendation. “The players SHOULD....” That’s why the issue is there. It isn’t a requirement and you can’t punish guys for something that isn’t in the CBA.

Damn right it’s serious!! Nobody Neals during the Star-Spangled Banner!! Lee Greenwood would be rolling over in his grave if he new this was going on. RIP Lee Greenwood

This is America!!! I don’t want no stinkin’ Kaeperdick or Eric Greed!! These guys Nealed during the National Anthem of These United States of America!! Pass on all guys that Neal!!

Great topic PTR!! I went with the 2 years but it is a good discussion.

Lenz, I am on fire at the moment. I’ve bet 42 games so far this year and hit like 35. I hit 5 team teasers in weeks 1-2. You need to trust me on this one. I’m swinging a hot bat right now. I actually bet it adjusted to Browns -6.5.

Lay the points!! This Browns defense might be elite. Darnold is turnover prone. Tyrod has lit up the Jets at times (not like Miami). Tonight is the night that they crack those beer fridges.

Kaepernick?!? Isn’t he the guy that kneels for the National Anthem?!? I don’t want anything to do with that POS!! #Merica

Is it? We just used a starting LT, a first round pick and 2 second round picks to take a QB. He has played a game and a half and you think that it is prudent to go QB again? This team has given up 78 points in 2 weeks but the QB is the only position that matters?!? It’s certainly the most important but we have that guy for another 30 games at least. Let’s see if he’s good by improving the team around him.

The reason is clear though. He wasn’t on the radar. He wasn’t at elite camps and stuff like that. That’s how these guys get noticed. If he would have started earlier he wouldn’t have fallen through the cracks because he is an ELITE talent. It’s rare, especially now, with the amount of information out there for this to happen.

Sorry to hear this man. It can’t be easy. I don’t have experience with it but my advice would be to always put the kid’s best interests first. That’s the one thing that you guys will always be able to agree on. If you defer to that to solve disputes I’d imagine that it would be better.

That was kind of the theme of season 2. All of these negotiations, deals, etc... that he put in place are starting to cave in around him. He’s playing a lot more defense in season 2.

He’s a guy

Well he is a total outlier. He only played a year or 2 of football. Ziggy Ansah was the same way. UB getting him was more luck than anything. If Mack would have played all 4 years like that in Florida he would have ended up at FSU or UF. Kudos to the Bulls for finding him but he’s the exception, not the rule.

That is how they play. They are flinging it all over the field. That’s a good comparison. He’s going to be a star IMO.

That’s why Tua is such a good prospect. “He has pinpoint accuracy and throws with great anticipation. He also has the swagger.” Those are Kipers words. He’s Baker hit a little bigger.

Cotton may too. Jeudy would be our number 1 receiver and Devonta Smith would be in the rotation. Both Harris’ would play behind Shady but get carries. I guess what people are missing is that elite college players translate. 2 years ago some would have said “Tre White is a college CB” he’d get smoked out here. 8 months later he was a top 10 NFL CB. The same goes for Lattimore. Elite players are elite players.

It certainly plays a role. Murray’s numbers are almost identical to Baker’s at this point. Tua is really, really good though. He was the number 1 QB recruit for a reason. I’m less concerned about the numbers than the skill set. He appears to have elite traits.

That’s why they are so much better now. Their QB will be a top 5 pick in 2020: http://www.draftblaster.com/2020-nfl-mock-draft/. He’s a more mobile Baker Mayfield IMO.

That’s exactly what I am saying. I am saying the same thing here as well.