Kirby Jackson

I always view backup QB as, “if Josh went out for a month, what would the record be?” As a rule, I think 2-2 needs to be the answer. If Mitch can do that, good by me. Kyle Allen wasn’t hat guy IMO.

Garrett AND DK was a bit of a pipe dream IMO. Is Hendrickson AND DK a possibility? A 1st for Hendrickson and a 2nd for DK a possibility, is that an option?

Good deal for the Texans. Dell out the year again and now they have him to play along Nico.

The beauty of the poll is that the Bills have a massive need for both. There are guys that can accomplish that out there. If you added, “1200 yard rusher with 15TDs” it wouldn’t get any votes. They pretty much have that. This team, as good as it is, has some massive holes. If you add either of those, it’s a giant step towards a Super Bowl.

Not shocking, a pretty good punter at a pretty high price. Draft a guy late and you may improve while saving money.

No one is trading a first for him. If it is a 2nd and you have to sign him, would you? It’s an easy yes for me.

How has Allen having to do it all by himself worked out? The thought would be, a player like DK would turbocharge Allen and shoulder some of that load. If the Bills are going to win it’s BECAUSE of Josh Allen. Giving him other dudes and not just guys would open the floodgates. That’s the thought. Everybody eats is fun and cute. It scored a lot of points. The offense really took a leap forward once Cooper came aboard. His stats aside, the offensive stats all took a massive jump. The threat on the boundary and down the field unlocked the running game and underneath passing game. DK would do that and then some. It’s a MASSIVE need. Significantly bigger need than 2nd corner or a run stuffer. I’d argue elite pass rusher is first but boundary WR is 1A. That price for DK is more than he’s worth. I’m still In the camp of exhaust all opportunities for Garrett. He’s still, by far, the best player “available.” If Cleveland holds firm, Metcalf should be prioritized over Holland or DJ Reed or whomever else is out there. Metcalf isn’t a perfect player but is a perfect fit for the Bills.

This team needs an infusion at the top of their roster. Garrett instantly becomes their 2nd best player and is a top 5 overall player in football (top 10 at least). DK is a top 5 player on this team and fills a massive need. He’s a top 75 player in the NFL IMO. These are the conversations that the Bills need to be involved with!! They have always done well building depth and the back of the roster. They don’t have enough dudes. These guys are dudes.

That’s what it is now. The Bills don’t care about people reselling seats. They haven’t in at least the 25 years that I’ve had them.

At some point they are going to have to move quicker. I don’t think that they’ve done the 200’s non-club or 300’s at all. I’m not sure that they’re done with the 100 level either. This process has been going on a long time for this to be the case. In theory, you should sell a higher percentage at the lower price point. With that being said, if they do not alter the timeline on interest free payment plans, you might not. You’re squeezing that for those people otherwise.

This is the misleading part of the story. The Bills haven’t hit like 50% of the current people yet (forget about anyone else). Maybe it is trailing where they wanted to be but the process hasn’t allowed it to be a much bigger number. The telling number would be “percent of people offered that have purchased vs. percent that did not.”

Are they freeing up cap space to enter the Garrett sweepstakes (if they happen)?

It makes sense for all sides. The Bears simply have to get better there to give Caleb a chance. The Chiefs have to prioritize Smith and Humphrey. It’s about asset allocation. Now they can reallocate that $ elsewhere. They have needs.

I didn’t really know what it was but read that it’ll be like LeBron’s production company, Springhill Entertainment. Fun story about Springhill, the President of the company is a Buffalo guy. We graduated high school together. The story is wild. He showed up at a breakfast meeting that a guy set up and LeBron and Rich Paul were sitting at the table in NY. They begged him to come. He was pretty dismissive and didn’t want to move his family across the country. They insisted that he just throw out a number, so he did, sort of as a joke. The next day, or later that week, they agreed to everything and more. He couldn’t say no. He’s now running it. His dad is a pretty famous actor: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_McKinley_Henderson Anyways, Josh Allen is reaching the point where’s he’s a massive celebrity, not just football player. With his relationship with Hailee, this might meet some of his goals outside of football. No, this isn’t a distraction, it’s an investment at this point. In 15 years though, you may see Allen winning Oscar’s and Emmys.

The way that I kind of look at it, “is this guy a top 10 player at his position?” That would put them in the top 3rd in the league. The closer they are to 1, the more important they are. On the Bills it’s: Josh, Dion, Spencer Brown, McGovern maybe, Shakir in the slot, Cook, Benford, Oliver maybe, one of the LBs maybe. Rousseau is a tick below that. He’s in the, “if it’s a good deal, sure” but not a guy that you overextend for.

If you added Metcalf you wouldn’t be bringing back Cooper. Cap space is irrelevant moving forward. The counter to the cap space argument is, “what are saving it for?” This is exactly what you’d spend it on. You address the rest of the roster throughout the draft and with cheap players. The theory is if you strengthen the top of your roster you can sacrifice the middle and back. Myles Garrett and Javon Solomon > Rousseau & Epenesa (for example).

This

Honestly, it’s one of the most appealing aspects about Myles Garrett. I’m not sure if people fully comprehend how good he is. If you injected, a hungry Myles Garrett into the Bills, it isn’t crazy to think that he would be the best player in the NFL. He’s the best defensive player now and he’s playing with, and for, a trash team.

100% agree on all fronts. We may see another 6 years or so of Allen at this level. That would be an insane run. That range feels fair for Kelly and he led the best teams in franchise history. Those early 90’s teams were some of the best teams in league history. If that kick goes 5 feet left, they are considered one of the best teams ever instead of an outdated punchline.

I agree in general. It was just a bit of a coin flip between the dominant year Allen had (with little help) vs. the slightly more dominant year Lamar had (with a lot of help). When I look at the top Bills QBs it’s a little more black and white. Josh Allen has been a top 3 QB for 5 years and continues to be. QB has NEVER been more important than over the last 20 years because of the rules. They have more impact on the game now than at any point in history. He has been one of the 3 best. Kelly was rarely, if ever, a top 3 QB. He was to his era, what Hurts is to this era, a really good QB that won with an elite team. No one would argue that Hurts is better than Allen. So while it can be tricky to compare across eras because statistics change, look at where these guys are compared to their peers. Kelly was on a level of Moon or Aikman when he played. He was behind Montana, Marino, Elway, and the last few years, Favre and Young. Kelly was always really good but not in the top tier. Allen has been in the top tier for a while and doing it when QB is more important. I’ve said my piece and it wasn’t directed at you. This was a fun exercise and is interesting. It’s a bit of a pet peeve when we underrate Allen and overrate Kelly specifically. The same goes for Bledsoe I guess lol. We have the best player in football. He’s the best player in franchise history. He plays the most important position in professional sports. Hopefully people enjoy the ride so that they don’t have to use the rear view mirror to reflect on how great this has been. Sure, we need a Super Bowl but we are witnessing QB play that we’ve never seen and will likely never see again after him.

Interesting perspective!! That hadn’t crossed my mind but now give me pause

We are on the same page if it’s 10 favorites. “Favorite” and “best” aren’t interchangeable. That was my question.

So is it safe to say that this is a list of your 10 favorite Bills QBs vs. the 10 best? That would certainly leave the list more subjective. In terms of the “best” there are answers that are more right or wrong. As an extreme, it’s not reasonable to make the case for Losman ahead of Allen. In terms of your favorite, sure, you could pick that. In terms of the “best” there’s nothing that would support that. That’s where I’ve been going with this, thinking it’s the “best.” If that’s the case Allen is 1 and that really isn’t debatable. Kelly is 2 and that’s probably not debatable either. Kemp is 3 and that’s probably not debatable. After that, there is some preference that comes into play. Is longevity more important than stats? Where do wins come into play? QBs play a big part in wins but ultimately can’t be judged only on that because so much of a game is out of their control. What about physical skills? There are a litany of ways that you can view a QB but you really can’t make an argument that anyone played QB for the Bills at a higher level than Allen. Kelly and Kemp would be next followed by the field.

I want to add a layer to that. They had the fewest turnovers in the NFL and the 2nd most takeaways. Their turnover +\- was WAY better than anyone else. Is that sustainable? That’s a rhetorical question. Additionally, the numbers all improved significantly once Cooper came aboard (regardless of his stats). It’s safe to assume that the threat of him opened up the field some for everyone else and he’s a free agent. Without the threat of a vertical passing game, teams will defend the Bills like Baltimore did in the first matchup. Why do people think that you can’t address both the offense AND defense? The Bills have picks, cap space (or will) and some young players that other teams may want. They have MORE holes on defense but one of their biggest holes remains on the boundary.

That feels like fair comp. I think that I’m out on Metcalf if in on Garrett. It feels like too much for a player that I have questions about. If you could get it done for Rousseau and pick 108, I’d reconsider but still hesitate. Is that a better solution than bringing Amari back and drafting a guy? I really don’t know the best way to address the glaring need on the boundary. Short term deal for Davante Adams?