Kirby Jackson

All joking aside, is this the “Brownsiest” thing of the last 20 years? I’m voting ABSOLUTELY. That’s why I hope that this story has legs.

This is hilarious

Re-watch it, he started to take off the coat. That’s a terrible look. He should have pulled him aside and talked about (assuming that he cared enough about the stupid rule). Otherwise he should have let it go and addressed it after the game. The only thing that could happen was bad with the way that the “adult” handled it. We are roughly the same age (I’m 37) so I’m not sure it’s generational. I just think that people see this thing differently. For me, neither was right in their reaction but I put 85% on Applewhite. He started it AND it was petty and ridiculous.

He tried to physically remove the coat!! That’s what started it. I don’t consider that a “higher standard.” That was the worst possible response. He will walk away now. He wasn’t going to play in the bowl game anyways. Applewhite is WAY more replaceable than Oliver. He is their 1st ever 5-star recruit and will be a top 10 pick. That helps programs just like Mack helped UB.

I don’t think we are in agreement. I hold the adult making $1.5M to a higher standard than the 20 year-old. The rule is stupid and without any reason. There are PLENTY of coats to go around. I’m sure Oliver even has one. Applewhite is butthurt that Oliver isn’t playing and protecting his draft status. That’s what anyone with sense would do. Applewhite should be the adult in the situation. There is no reason for a rule to try to “show who is in charge.” This incident won’t impact Oliver’s future. It certainly puts a negative spotlight on Applewhite though.

He should just withdraw now and it looks better for everyone. That’s what top 10 picks do (especially on average teams).

If the rule had a purpose then we could all agree. Having a rule for the sake of having a rule is ridiculous. Why not have a rule “everyone stand on your left foot the whole time?” Applewhite can walk over and discipline guys that are standing on both feet because “it’s a rule.” They are a major Division 1 football program. If they can afford to pay Major Applewhite $1.5M to coach this year they can afford enough coats for the players.

I said it elsewhere but it is a way worse look for Applewhite. He came across as a petulant child. He was like a referee on a power trip. He confronted the best player in program history because he was wearing a coat!! He was trying to flex his muscle and came across looking ridiculous. He physically tried to remove a coat!! Applewhite should be embracing Oliver not trying to show who has more power. Oliver can easily say “I’m good” and never put on a Houston uniform again. He still goes early in the 1st and this issue has ZERO lasting impact on him. It’s a much bigger issue that an average college coach pushes away an All-American.

Oh, I’d bet anything that White gets offered a BIG 2nd contract by the Bills. These guys want to develop there own guys and grow with them. Tre may very well be the best CB in football this year. They aren’t just going to let that guy walk out the door.

That’s not too far from where I am. Saffold, James and Tyrell Williams would be my ideal FA start. I’d be tempted to swing at Eiffert knowing that he is never healthy. I think all of that is relatively realistic. They need to let the draft come to them.

Bandit, I’m curious to hear your initial thoughts on the 2019 offseason and the Bills? I don’t want to put you on the spot but your thoughts are valued.

This situation looks WAY worse for Applewhite IMO. It’s a really, really stupid rule. He went all the way to taking the coat off the guy in the ultimate power struggle!! He looked like an umpire or referee that tries to flex his power. He was Joey Crawford.

He is a full grown man. He has also been at his best in their biggest games (at least from the little that I know about him). He is 6’6” and 225 lbs. He runs and sub-4.5 40 and is averaging almost 23 yards per catch!! That’s pretty crazy. I wouldn’t hate him at all.

I think that we all agree with that. The problem is he may not be out there this year.

I can answer this (kind of). There used to be a rink in BR. It closed within the last year. The closest rink to New Orleans is in Lafayette (which is about 2 hours). I don’t know what’s going on in North LA but I doubt it’s much different.

Tre White is special. That guy has so much personality. He’s one of my favorite players that we have had in a long, long time.

We were up 31 at halftime. We may have beaten them with Peterman on that day. That Jets team wasn’t beating ANYBODY on that day. They quit.

This is where I’m at. Houston is the only win that I’d add. It’s not a playoff team.

Not happening....if they draft Jonah or Trey Adams it is with the intent of playing LT

I actually think that Jones has some “Mahomes rise” to him. I think that there’s a chance that Herbert stays in school but i think Jones climbs during the process. It’s already starting.

Usually the trade ups happen when there is about to be a drop off at a certain position. Last year there was a big drop after Davenport and Edmunds IMO. A team may trade up for Baker (around where we will pick) or even Daniel Jones (who I think will end up as QB 1). Not a ton though, the scouting book on this class was completed almost a full year ago. They scout a year in advance. There will be some movement but with only a couple of weeks left there isn’t going to be a ton of movement.

There are going to be a BUNCH of WR ranked between 20 and 100. Here are 13 between 19-99. https://www.drafttek.com/m/Top-100-NFL-Draft-Prospects-2019.asp. It is definitely possible for the Bills to secure 2 of those guys. Good teams don’t reach (ever). This draft will be dominated by defensive talent in the 1st and open up from there. Every draft has different strengths and this is on the DL. I’d bet my first born that AT LEAST 22 of the 32 1st round picks are defense. It is likely even more (closer to 25).

For what it’s worth there should be really strong value in rounds 2 and 3 there IMO. I said it in one of the college threads but it feels like there are a lot of “Robert Woods type” of WRs to me. There are a bunch of guys that will be like 60 catch, 800 yard, 6 or 7 TD guys. We could conceivably get 2 of them. If you pair them with Zay and another guy from FA (Tyrell Williams maybe) you have a functioning WR room.

I may be the only person on this board that wouldn’t hate it. CB2 is the biggest (and only) real hole at the present time on defense. It would give the Bills a chance to have an elite defense like the Seahawks were. At the moment, every important throw goes right at CB2. In addition, the value will be there. He’s universally thought of as a top 5 pick. I would much rather take him there than the 23rd best player in the draft because he plays offense. Assuming that a trade trade down isn’t an option this wouldn’t be bad at all IMO. We can then go offense from there. This holds especially true if they nab a couple of FA starters on offense. I think that they have a chance to add 2 starting OL and potentially a rotational WR in FA.

agree