Kirby Jackson

Rosen to Washington for pick 15 just makes way too much sense for everyone. Washington can get a guy likely graded ahead of any QB available at that point and the Cardinals can still get a foundational defensive piece.

Every time Robby Anderson is mentioned I picture this as the soundtrack of your mind:

Ha ha, I was thinking the exact same thing!! I honestly need to hear from those people. I voted for Chan because I thought that he was a decent football coach. His offense was pretty effective and he didn’t have a ton of talent.

This is just bad IMO. I HATE when people unretire. Make a decision and stick with it.

FWIW, I like Murray a lot too. He’s 2nd to me. I just think that he’s closer to a mid-1st rounder and has downside. Haskins to me has a high floor and ceiling. I like Daniel Jones a little bit too (and maybe I shouldn’t).

Play, I think that Haskins is a really advanced passer. I don’t know if you saw Dan Orlovsky break it down on GET UP yesterday or not but it’s worth a watch. Haskins does things pre-snap and during the play that are well ahead of where others are. He said that he will blow everyone away this weekend on the whiteboard. That is in addition to his “clutch gene” (most 4th quarter TDs) and high completion percentage.

I hate to say this but it makes it a little better for me. If these people are a problem outside the office they should be fired. I’d be more nervous if they just couldn’t decide what they wanted in leadership.

Yeah and I’m not sure how you’d have to quantify “turning a weakness into a strength.” If the Bills trade for AB and find some dynamic rookie it could become a strength even if Duke Williams catches 4 balls on the year. There has to be some criteria to defining him as the “needle mover.”

I think that they will be in a prime spot for someone that wants a QB. The Raiders are a WC at 4 and the Jags and Giants are sitting at 6,7. The Jets can float rumors out there of Gruden wanting his own QB and get someone to go to 3. IMO Haskins is a tier ahead of everyone else. I guess that it will all play out but 3 seems like a good spot to me.

I love the offseason. @Mister Defense is talking about Duke Williams making the WR group a strength and @Boca BIlls is talking about him making the team. FWIW, I’d put the odds of Duke making the WR’s a strength at +9500 and I’d put the odds of him making the roster at -130.

Yes please

I loved the early seasons of Homeland. It fell off a cliff in about Season 4 before redeeming itself in the last few seasons.

I saw a Char Broil electric smoker on clearance the other day for $140. I wasn’t looking for one but felt that I had to pick it up at that price. Now, I am sitting here trying to figure out what to do with it. This is ALWAYS a good place for conversation on stuff like that. I was hoping for some recipes and ideas of things that I can do on this smoker.

I hope that you are right and don’t necessarily disagree that Beane and McDermott May be the right people. Any way you slice it though they have cycled through hockey people, football people and business people at a crazy rate. I hope that they get the right people in place and develop some stability. It’s going to be hard to recruit the top people into those roles knowing that the “average lifespan” at PSE is far less than the other places recruiting the same people. You don’t want that to be your reputation.

I said that RB absolutely needed to be fired. I believe that some of those others needed to go as well. That doesn’t change the fact that they are turning over senior level people at an unparalleled level. They are the ones that hired these people in many cases!! The last guy was there a month. I didn’t even name them all. The average pro sports franchise probably has 12 or so people at the “senior level” between on and off the field (maybe a little more). They have cycled through people at a rate that no other team has. The Pelicans/Saints are a similar structure. They have turned over 3 people at that level since 2012 (if my memory is correct). They fired the VP of sponsorship in like 2015, Monty Williams (HC Pelicans) around then and Dell Demps (GM Pelicans) this year. Every other department head remains and outside of Monty Williams the people were replaced internally. The Pegulas have been through 20 or so people at that level in a similar time frame. What is happening at PSE is not normal.

No one is arguing that they do. That isn’t the conversation taking place. The conversation is, “why is PSE cycling through senior level executives at a way higher rate than other pro sports organizations?”

If there are skeletons I am all for clearing them out. I’m actually hoping that there is more to the story than “we wanted change.” It would make me feel more comfortable. I want the Bills and Sabres to have superior management.

Without being a contrarian I feel the opposite. I know a lot of the people that Russ had in charge and they were talented. He was talented. The Bills obviously has no choice but to fire RB but it wasn’t wise to clear out veteran sports business people like Popko. Those people know WAY more about the business than Terry & Kim Pegula. You should be embracing people like that to learn from, not firing them.

They are okay but are they better than average? Are Kenyan Drake and Frank Gore a good backfield? Stills, Wilson, Amendola and Parker? I just don’t think that their talent is good.

That shouldn’t be the case though. These leagues are pretty consistent in the positions that they have. They all work together and share ideas. You have a counterpart with every other team that you work fairly closely with. You shouldn’t have a lot of “fat” on your staff if you are paying attention. In general you should have someone at the C level, someone (or a couple) at the VP level (SVP, EVP), directors of the departments, managers, and staff. Not to be boring or too much of a tangent but this is what our group looked like: President SVP of ticket Sales and Service Director of Ticket Ops, Director of Group Sales, Director of Retention, Director of Ticket Sales (packages), Director of Analytics Manager of each of those groups 30 - 40 sales and service reps in the various departments. There were also a couple of analytics and ticket ops people at this level. That would be roughly 50 people in that department.

It’s not winning and losing that we are talking about though. We are talking about business executives for PSE. They wear hats for both teams. Their job has nothing to do with winning and losing. It has to do with leading a sales team, service team, etc... That’s how I feel as well. If there is something that hasn’t come out yet (like the Russ situation) at least it will make sense. If this is just cleaning house it’s odd to do a month after appointing the guy.

I know that I’ll take heat for this but I don’t believe that the Pegula’s know what they are doing on that end. I don’t know the people that were fired (but know a little about Popko). The Pegula’s can’t continously turn over their senior level executives!! That’s crazy. There are A LOT of pro franchises that have had their senior leadership in place for 10 to 15 or even 20 years. This one guy didn’t make it a month!! What ends up happening is you spend all of your time trying to get someone up to speed to fill a role that is above their current pay grade. Think about out how many senior level executives have been let go by the Pegula’s since they started with the Sabres? Black, Brandon, Darcy, Ruff, Bylsma, Popko, Rex, Whaley, Rossi, Muhleman, those 2 guys last month, the guy at Harbor Center and so on... I hope that this is a part of a bigger issue. If these people are tied to a problem it at least makes sense. If this is just turnover for turnover’s sake it is a problem.

I guess that we just disagree on this. I’m not a fan of the talent on the Dolphins (except the secondary).

Analytics guys are using numbers and data to group players. They are using data to predict future performance based on certain traits. The only thing that we know are the results. It was a disaster in the Dolphins case. You don’t know if he had a lot or a little involvement. You do know that the results were bad. If he had had a little involvement that is a problem to me. I haven’t been in sports in almost 7 years but our analytics people had a big say. I can’t possibly see that being less now than it was then. There is so much more information and training for the role. The point is that we don’t know if he is bad or good. We know the results of his previous situation were bad. It is VERY fair to assume that he played a role in that. We just don’t know how big of a role. This is fair.

That is actually a really fair point. Gase did drive off a lot of guys. I wasn’t thinking about that. Things may have been different if he didn’t create a toxic culture. I can’t wait for him to bring that to the Jets