Kirby Jackson

I really wish I would have bet adjusted spreads. Clemson is paying 60/1 to 100/1 at this score.

They lost by 2 to this Clemson team and won 10 games while playing in the SEC West. They certainly aren’t scrubs.

No, we had the route at LSU, beatdown vs. A&M and the shutout of Mississippi State. Their resume was plenty strong. They just ran into another team with 5 stars from all over the country. The gap between the top of college football and everyone else is greater than ever. Teams ALWAYS recruited regionally. Now the top teams, Alabama, Clemson, OSU, LSU, etc... have players from all over the country. The top teams get all of the top players and everyone else gets what’s left. Parody is forever dead in college football. You either have an elite coach that can recruit nationally or you play for a shot at the Citrus Bowl.

It was a different conversation 2 and a half months ago though. The Bills got better and Bama worse. Either way, I’m cashing here. I needed it after UGA didn’t show up.

Whoah, whoah, whoah, I have a house to pay for!! I’m feeling pretty good about it now though. Clemson will help furnish the place.

I’d still take their talent. That’s hyperbole though the hypothetical spread was 28.5 I think. Only idiots were talking about the score straight up. That’s wasn’t the conversation. It was 28.5

What a horrendous fake

Really? There are 3 players (Williams, Williams, Ferrell) in the trenches that will be picked in the top 10 this year and another 1 or 2 (Wilkins, Davis) that will go in the 1st. These teams have 8 or 10 (don’t remember) of McShay’s top 35 this year. That’s only the guys eligible. The best players on both teams aren’t even eligible.

The next 3 #1 overall picks may be in this game. They aren’t all ready now but the talent in this game is as good as any college game maybe ever. It’s there with the early 2000 U teams. Off the top of my head: Lawrence, Tua, Jeudy, Jonah, Ferrell, Wilkins, Quinnen Williams, Deionte Thompson, Wilkins, Lawrence (not playing), all of the RBs, Davis, Surtain, and Higgins all could easily be 1sts. The talent level out there is ridiculous.

The talent level in this game is ABSURD!! o/u 20 players on these rosters that will be 1st round picks at some point? I’m taking over

So so, Ferrell abused him on one play.

I said early in the year that I’d trade the Bills receivers for Alabama straight up. I feel stronger about that now than I did then AND the Bills receivers are way better than they were then. The Alabama WRs are just absurd.

No, no it didn’t. This is going to be a close game though I think. These teams are by far the best 2 teams IMO. Buckle up!!

I have Clemson +6.5

Kenny Omega?

It is certainly weird (and not good).

Lawrence is going to be an elite prospect. He just looks like Peyton Manning back there but he can move.

Man, I go all over the map on this. They were my 2nd favorite team for a while. Now, their fans (ie my friends) annoy the **** out of me. The party was great for the last Super Bowl and I anticipate it will be again. At the same time I don’t want to have to listen to these ****heads for the next 13 months. I went mostly indifferent. Great topic!!!

But you are already seeing the varying opinions. Someone has him in the 1st and someone else has him undrafted. He doesn’t need 32 teams to believe in him. He needs 1. Toolsy prospects ALWAYS get pushed up because of that. His ceiling his high and his floor is really low. FWIW, I don’t like him as a pro prospect. I’m not saying what I would do. I’m saying what I think will happen. I’m thinking between 90-150.

I see him somewhere between about 90-150. That is certainly subject to change though (especially for such a flawed prospect). There will be a huge variance on team’s boards when it comes to Jackson just like there was with Josh. Some teams will look at Tyree Jackson as a day 2 guy with huge upside and others will see a player that shouldn’t be drafted.

It’s being at the game and it’s not close. It requires a much bigger commitment but the experience isn’t even close. The question is really “would you rather commit an entire day (or weekend for road games) to a game or not?” Experiencing the game and the ancillary activities has to be done at the stadium.

That what happens with raw guys. Someone has an undrafted grade and someone else has a 2nd. How many QBs in this class are better prospects than Jackson? 5 maybe? Haskins, Lock, Jones, maybe Grier and/or Finley? It’s not a lot. I dont think that he goes kn the 1st coming off of a bad year but wouldn’t at all be surprised if he were off the board by the end of day 2.

We disagree on the backup QB as a draft pick at this point. You can throw a rock and get a guy to fill that role. As an example, if one of these QBs went out now and his team needed a guy they could add Sam Bradford, Jay Cutler or Matt Moore. Every one of those guys is WAY ahead of where a young backup is. You don’t need to waste a late round asset on a low ceiling QB. It is a terrible strategy. Either go for a guy with the tools to eventually play or fill out the back of your roster with guys that will contribution special teams. We will see I guess but I doubt it. It will take one team to look at Jackson’s raw skill set and take a swing on developing him. I’m thinking he goes late 3rd to 4th. He is Cardale Jonesish.

This class is not good though. If you had a choice to take a guy late that has limited upside or a lottery ticket which way would you go? I’m buying lottery tickets late. I’d much rather draft a guy like Tyree that develops or washes out than a guy that will never be better than bad. You can find a zillion guys on the street to do that if you need it. The Bills added Barkley and Anderson off the street and both were better than Peterman. Don’t bother with guys like him or Levi Brown or Gibran Hamadan. Buy lottery tickets because you can always find a competent back-up.