Kirby Jackson

Who was the last “plug and play 10 year pro bowler” available at 9? That isn’t how it works. He has some questions (arm length and athleticism) which make him an option at 9. He isn’t a flawless prospect by any stretch. Williams is an option at 9 but he is absolutely not a “plug and play 10 year pro bowler.” He’s closer to Jake Matthews as a prospect than Quentin Nelson. He’s a guy with a ton of experience that is a safe option. He will be a good player but he isn’t changing the landscape of anyone’s team. That last part, is, in many ways why he’s not an inspiring pick. The DL, or even Hock or Metcalf COULD transform this team.

If he were a plug and play pro bowler for 10 years he wouldn’t be an option at 9. He isn’t Quentin Nelson.

This actually makes some sense but I’m thinking more like the 7th. Love still comes with a TON of risk so I don’t see them handing him the keys in 2020 but he would be a great option to compete for it if healthy.

This is kind of where I’m at. He’s too good of a pas rusher (one of the hardest & most expensive things to find) to believe that he falls too far.

Lack of short area quickness would be my answer. He graded historically low in those drills (while his size is an obvious reason). Additionally, he’s coming off of a major injury and has the body of an alien. He may be destined for an injury-filled career. With that being said I am fine with DK. I like to roll the dice. Oliver is still my first choice but wouldn’t be mad with DK as he has a chance to be a legit #1 which is what the Bills are missing.

That’s kind of my point on Metcalf. He is RAW. Josh Allen was the same type of prospect. Edmunds was the same type of prospect. They were both physical freaks with questions about their production. Beane wasn’t looking for “solid” guys with a long track record. He was looking for guys that COULD become great. Metcalf is a dice roll but would fit how Beane handled last year.

I believe Metcalf is an option based on how Beane handled last year. He swung for the fences twice in the first. He took raw players with huge ceilings and pretty low floors. Metcalf is that player in this draft. I feel like Jonah is the exact opposite. He’s a safe player that will be good but never great.

It’s similar to what Gunner was saying regarding grades. He may have 15 guys with a round 1 grade. Obviously, 32 guys are going to be taken there. This is similar. The Bills will have it all laid out and have eliminated the guys that have injury or off the field concerns that they deem too big of a risk. Some teams have Sweat off their board for example. He’s probably a top 10 pick.

Yeldon is and always has been a backup. It’s the week of the draft where teams are looking to add young backs. He certainly isn’t holding out for a starting spot at this point. He took the best offer out there. That’s kind of what I am thinking.

I may be in the minority here but think that this is worse for DiMarco than Shady. It feels like Shady is in his last year and they brought in his buddy Gore. Yeldon will be the 4th guy and a draft pick ahead of him. The Bills may move away from a fullback.

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No he played pretty much 2 full seasons and had dominant moments. He was a 5-star recruit and played like it.

The question is really, “offensive weapon” vs. lineman. That is the question. I voted field because I believe Oliver is their guy. That doesn’t mean that he will be there. There are a lot of options but IMO he is the target.

As a Buckeye fan I always thought Nick was a better prospect than Joey. He doesn’t have the length but his technique is stellar. He’s a double digit sack guy as a rookie. He’s a high floor, high ceiling prospect which is why he can’t slip. Outside of his political opinions, which may not fit well in an NFL locker room, he’s a very safe prospect.

I like DK but he is one of the most polarizing players in this draft. Some people will love him and others will worry about his short area quickness, injury and production. I’m fine with him at 9 but a lot of people won’t be. Give me talent though

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@GunnerBill curious to hear your thoughts on Dawson Knox? He feels like a late riser and a guy that could end up on the Bills in the 3rd.

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I answered your question. That’s not a possibility. In the real world the conversation starts with the teams agreeing to the compensation (like the Bills with Brown). The trade is contingent upon the contract being agreed to (like the Bills with Brown). There is not a situation where a trade would happen without an extension.

I’m not trying to be rude but what does that mean? In the real world, every trade would have an extension negotiated that both sides agreed too (that’s why Antonio Brown isn’t on the Bills). There is not a scenario where your concern could arise.

9 and 40?!? I already said I wouldn’t give up 9. I MAY not give up 40. I’d swap 1sts 9 for Clark and 21. I’d consider 40. I would do a 3rd & 1 of our 2 4ths.

There is certainly talent on the DL in this draft. However, a guy that had 13 sacks at age 25 is what we hope these guys become. Clark IS already that guy. He has 32 sacks over the last 3 years. He’s a high end, proven, pass rusher. The cost will determine whether or not he ends up elsewhere. I’m not giving a 1st as they want. I’d swap 1sts in a second. I’d consider a 2nd and would give them a 3rd & 4th yesterday. It depends on the cost but he can play and it will be tough to get that production out of a draft pick.

Antonio Brown is a cancer. He may be the biggest cancer in the league. The Bills went ALL IN on him but couldn’t make the numbers work. This regime drafted Zay Jones who clearly has some issues. There have been plenty of rumors about their interest in Frank Clark. They aren’t above winning. Also, you’ve made your feelings on Frank Clark known in the Frank Clark thread. You aren’t talking from a position of what could happen but rather what you hope happens (or doesn’t happen in this case). Clark is an option whether you like it or not. They aren’t going to give 9 but a swap of 1’s or a 2 could happen. Prepare yourself...

I’m not giving ANY opinion if I want him or not. I’m saying that the Bills ARE NOT ruling out a player of Clark’s caliber because he isn’t a “process” guy. If they think the value is right they will absolutely pull the trigger. Their interest in Clark hasn’t been a secret. For the last couple of years Bills fans assumed guys with checkered pasts weren’t an option. The reality is, the Bills operate like EVERY other team in the league. If the risk is minimal they will always chase talent. They will do what KC, NE, New Orleans, etc.. do