Kirby Jackson

I think it was close to 2 hours.

Ha ha, I saw it on twitter and was like “how am I going to do this?” It was so tough. Bison Chip dip is something I adore and crave when in Buffalo. For me, I was able to come to terms (somewhat) in that there are a lot of good snack options. I felt that the drop off from pizza, wings and Sahlen’s was too substantial. I can do without the others. My ex LOVED Weber’s Mustard though (I’m not a mustard guy). My family would ship it to her every couple of months.

It’s pretty incredible and 1,000% agree @416BillsFan. In terms of interviewers in this world it’s: Howard Stern everybody else

Listening to his interview on Stern this morning now, pretty good stuff

Hot take: If Roscoe came along 10 years later he would have had a really nice career. The game has evolved so much since 2005. There is a place in these spread offenses for his skill set regardless of size.

My brother sent me a Bocce’s pizza last week. I’ve never been so appreciative.

Well you can be shocked then if he’s traded. I won’t be. This is their last go at it. If they don’t make some moves like this they are going to be a team not good enough with some massive contracts. I also think some on here are WAY overrating the player that he was last year. He was an average back that looked like he lost his explosiveness. This is a “sell high” opportunity for the Saints. If they could trade Kamara in the last year of his contract for one of the top 5 backs in the first year of their deal I think that they’d take it. Loomis has some of that BB mentality when it comes to getting rid of a guy before it’s popular. There have been rumblings for months around here about Kamara going. There may be no fire but there’s definitely smoke.

Their 2nd, 3rd and 4th is still worth less than pick 40 (although it’s close). I wouldn’t have your hopes up about a pick in that neighborhood. It more likely that they try to move back into the 3rd.

How does your order stack up to Miller? Similar or quite different?

I’m not trying to dispute that but as someone that lives in New Orleans and follows them pretty closely it’s certainly possible. He’s in the last year of his deal and wants to be paid top RB money. The Saints just committed a zillion dollars to Thomas (and rightfully so). Taysom isn’t going anywhere. They just paid Sanders. That doesn’t even factor in the unwarranted, ridiculous, contract Peat got. They have a TON of money tied up in the offense. Brees is deep in the back 9 and believe it or not A LOT of people here were ready for him to move on. Kamara is in their plans for this year only in all likelihood. If he were to walk after this season they’d likely end up with a 3rd in the 2022 draft. The packages suggested are FAR superior to that. In fact, they are right in line with what it will take to get him. If you offered the Saints pick 54 I think they’d take it. Maybe you’d have to add one of the 6ths but that’s about what we are talking. The Saints could take one of the top 5 backs there (maybe the local guy in CEH) and have him on the rookie deal.

2 different things at play here to be clear. There seems to be a misleading suggestion that a trade is there to be made. As far as we all know this hasn’t been discussed. The 2nd part though is much more likely. Kamara could absolutely be dealt this offseason. Now whether or not it’s the Bills is another question. The package(s) suggested make sense for both sides. He’s not some untouchable. AK is coming off a down year and it’s unlikely that the Saints pay him. They can get more today than if he walks next year. It’s not a definite but it’s a possibility.

This report doesn’t sound anything more than my speculation and tea leaf reading. The Saints window is still open but it’s closing. Do they want to pay Kamara a bunch in that situation? Are they better off trying to acquire a pick and take a guy like Akers? Again, it was always speculation but it makes WAY too much sense for everyone. The Saints aren’t going to pay Kamara IMO. They can take the pick now or the compensatory pick when he leaves.

Yeah, it was just an awful decision to force yourself to need a QB in 2013. There weren’t any available. EJ was pushed up the board because of how bad the group was. It was an atrocious decision to make 2013 the year. It would have been ideal if the year before when they traded up in the 3rd that they took Russell Wilson instead of TJ Graham.

EJ was a big reach but that was an institutional failure above all else. The Bills backed themselves into a corner NEEDING to draft a QB in the worst QB draft maybe ever. I don’t quite have that as bad because if you’re going to force yourself to take a QB at least take the big, strong, charismatic guy. He couldn’t play but when they were backed into a corner I can at least try to understand the flawed reasoning. He belongs way up on the list of worst picks but I blame the mismanagement of the position above all else.

That’s a strong point too. I think that the allure of Diggs was great but never looked at it from that perspective.

Please do not add stuff or make your own list. Based on this which 3 are you keeping?

Because you keep her on a tight leash, like your wife keeps you...

Trying to figure out how such ugly people created such beautiful dogs? ??

I wouldn’t read too much into it but I would expect this to have been a very high renewal rate. There is probably some additional flexibility going on too with COVID. As a side note my brother filed for a relocation and there are 2 sets of 3 in the entire stadium that will satisfy his request. ?? He wants one of the 2 sets of 3 next to the old press box, in the last row of the clubs in the field house side of the stadium. I was like “good luck with that.”

@Gugny this is a GREAT idea for a thread!! I have to say, I’ve met a lot of people from this board at this point. The dogs are WAY better looking than we are.

Some irony on that pick too. The Bills tried DESPERATELY to move up to take Mark Barron. They thought that they had a deal and couldn’t get it done. They ended up staying put and following plan B, drafting Gilmore.

Looking like a long shot that we get to the Bills pick today...

That’s Marv!! I’ve told the story on here that when he was the “GM” he was sound asleep during the big pre-draft meeting. He woke up in the middle and had to turn like 65 pages in his binder because he slept through the discussion of those 65 players (literally). He then got up and started doing toe touches and jumping jacks while everyone else was discussing the next prospect on the board. I always laugh when I hear people questioning his picks as the GM. He had about as much to do with drafting a guy as we do. He was a feel good figurehead inserted to make us feel better about the train wreck that we were in the midst of. He was not making ANY football decisions though. The draft was Modrak’s and the pro side John Guy. Tell me a little more about Dalton Keene. He’s clearly on the Bills radar.