Kirby Jackson

I have said that I think he can be (and will be) the backup. It was a good value pick at the time. The Peterman argument isn’t fair but I do think that both players lack the ability to make NFL throws outside of the numbers. I’m a realist when it comes to the Bills. I will never (and have never) blindly praised them or unfairly criticized them. My criticism of starting Peterman at the time was warranted. My defending Josh’s development is equally as warranted.

Fields is still playing and is a WAY better player than Fromm.

That was a response to someone claiming that Fromm was better than Allen now

Ha ha, keep flipping through. My main issue is the people that will be screaming for him. He’s strictly a backup. If everyone can agree with that we are cool. I was preparing for the “Brady was a 6th rounder” and “he’s better than Josh.” They’ve both come already. He’s not. He has a chance to be a decent backup. That was a need. It was good value for that.

Oh great, the Brady argument...

He likes the NFL check

There was no upside!! He couldn’t make NFL throws outside of the numbers. Again, you believed in Peterman but are skeptical on Allen. We just don’t look at QBs the same way I guess. - I believe that Peterman is the worst QB to ever play. - I believe that Josh Allen is a huge talent that has made big strides. He can do absolutely everything on the football field. IMO, he’s more likely to be a league MVP than he is to flameout. FWIW, I was not an Allen guy coming out. - I also believe it’s easier to learn the game and for it to slow down than to gain physical skills. We disagree there too. I don’t see any reason to continue talking about this (especially here). If you have more that you want to add go ahead but I won’t respond so as to not totally derail this. Bottom line we disagree on QB traits. I think Fromm can and will be the Bills backup. He isn’t going to be a starter ever IMO (and that’s okay). Everyone can feel free to disagree but that’s how I feel.

I like this for the Eagles. The Eagles needed another guy to do what Jackson does. Goodwin can do that.

I like it. I’d like a punter too. If the Bills are going to play close games they need to tighten up the special teams play. Bass is good and could take the job.

Not ignoring anything. I addressed what Josh has done. My point is someone that likes Peterman as a QB the way that you do has ZERO credibility in terms of QB analysis. You liked Peterman but question Allen. That’s absurd. It’s an unreasonable position. In terms of the topic, and Fromm, he’s a backup QB. He could be a good one. Only idiots believe that he is here to compete for the starting job. That’s what my issue is. I have no issue taking a backup QB in the 5th. It is a need. I have an issue (and will have an issue) when people start screaming for Fromm after a bad Allen game. We already have some on here claiming that he will be the QB. Those people have clearly not watched Fromm but have a loud voice. They’ll be posting here and calling WGR, etc...

He’s actually the lowest rated QB ever. People giving him a job doesn’t change that. https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2804566-is-nathan-peterman-the-worst-nfl-quarterback-ever.amp.html

Those would both be GREAT situations. I think that he will be the backup this year. My whole point (and I’m clearly not articulating well) is that his ceiling is really low. He could be like a McCarron now but he isn’t ever going to be much better than that IMO.

No offense but your Peterman love makes me question your ability to evaluate QBs. He’s LITERALLY the worst QB to ever play and you wanted more of him. Josh Allen took massive strides in year 2. He makes plays with his arm and legs. He’s competitive as hell. He is great in the 4th quarter. He wins. He leads. If you aren’t happy with Josh Allen 2 years in but you were happy with Peterman before and after the Chargers game we don’t have much to discuss.

Is the biggest Peterman fan on the board REALLY about to weigh in?!?

FWIW, I think that he will bring value in the QB room. Fromm is smart and competitive. It’s not bad value at this point. My objection is to those that will get carried away with the “championship level QB from UGA.” He’s a backup in the NFL (and has a chance to be a good one). The question is, “is he Aaron Murray?” “Is he Chase Daniels?” “Is he AJ McCarron?” The question is not “is he Tom Brady?” “Is he Joe Montana?”

...and yet if you talk to UGA fans they think and thought that was insanity. There isn’t one sane person in the US that thinks Fromm is a better QB than Fields (who will be a top 2 pick). Fromm isn’t going to all of a sudden become talented. His ceiling is low. He has a chance to carve out a career as a backup (and a good chance). He is not in any way, shape or form pushing Allen.

Tate is still going to be a star (don’t @ me) ??

I mean sure but the tape doesn’t support that

Works for me...

Willing to give him a chance. I think that it is decent value here. I have seen him a lot and don’t think that he is good. He played with TONS of talent. In general, he held them back imo. He has a chance to be a backup QB and we need that. His ceiling is LOW though to me.

...oh just wait People screamed for Peterman. Imagine what people will think when a guy that had success at UGA is sitting there. There is already someone on here claiming that he’s better than Josh. You are giving people too much credit.

I’m going to lose it.

It couldn’t be weaker. It’s not good even if it is better than it was there.

Yep, I think he’s okay as a backup option. It’s the people on WGR/TBD that are going to be screaming for him that will make me jump in traffic.

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