Kirby Jackson

Josh is a heavy favorite again depending on the betting sites. I’ve seen -230 & -450.

The weird irony is that relocation was never actually on the table. The terms of the lease had made it basically impossible. The media and fan base had these fears about Bon Jovi or whatever. The reality is that if he purchased the team he was not allowed to move them. There wasn’t an out of the lease like some teams have. That was Ralph’s parting gift that he doesn’t get enough credit for. He and Littman and Brandon had worked to get that done to ensure the Bills wouldn’t/couldn’t leave. I know a little bit about the situation and had put some of it on here at the time. The threat of relocation wasn’t actually real.

The data doesn’t show any regression. The numbers continue to increase. Why worry about, “yeah but what if it starts to plateau and decline?” It’s actually more likely that, “what if it takes off in those countries and the revenues grow exponentially?” It is a bit of a frustrating conversation for me because it doesn’t make sense. EVERY FOR PROFIT BUSINESS HAS A GOAL OF MAKING AS MUCH MONEY AS POSSIBLE. Why some want this business to be different is mind-numbing. If the interest wanes and the money slows, change will happen. Until then, expect continued revenue expansion by going into new markets, new networks, new timeslots, and more games. The DEMAND is there so the NFL owes it to their owners and players to maximize the revenue.

The NHL does it (Sabres did this year). The NBA does it (Wemby was just in France). MLB does it (last year they played in Seoul, Mexico City and London). They also play games at the Field of Dreams Stadium and at the Little League World Series. It’s 2025. The world has never been smaller. Get used to it…

The Riviera of the Middle East!!

I don’t understand the problem? Doesn’t every business try to make as much money as they can? If there’s a market for it and money to be made, why wouldn’t they try to expand? I work for a large company (10k employees & $3B revenue). We had a call with the CEO yesterday and all it was about was growth. Isn’t that the goal of a business Are we saying that a business should say, “nah I’m good? I don’t want more money.” I just don’t understand the outrage (not just from you). No one has an issue when my company roles out new initiatives designed to drive revenue. I really, really, really struggle with growing the game being a “problem.”

When Brady was at LSU Burrow had no problem getting the ball to Ja’marr Chase and Justin Jefferson. (My god was that team good).

If only we could have addressed that in arguably the greatest WR draft ever…

I’m thinking more like a 5th for Kupp but I could get behind that WR room if Cooper is at the right price & healthy. That looks WAY more dangerous. I’m not sure that it is good enough vertically but Cooper can fill that role. He has before.

I’m okay bringing back the guys that are FAs including Cooper at the right price. I believe that he can be the 1 if healthy and used appropriately. With that being said, I’m okay trying something different at the top of the depth chart. I’d be fine if they were able to get Luther Burden for example. I year ago I would have said that there is no chance that they could get him but I’m seeing him around 20 in a lot of mocks. Don’t give Coleman anything. He can’t get open and was not good. Throwing the ball to him is so low percentage because he’s never open. Don’t give up on him and hope that he develops but don’t count on him for a big role either. You can’t just run it back. You need to add to the offense. The Bills weren’t explosive enough down the field. They saw single high as much as pretty much any team in football. They didn’t scare anyone vertically and were too easy to defend. I don’t care how many points they scored. They have a glaring hole. They are aware of that glaring hole. Why wouldn’t they address that glaring hole?

Damn, Chip and Knowles both left.

I think that Von has a role as a situational pass rusher. With that being said, they can’t keep him at that number. They need those savings even with the dead cap hit.

I think he was recruited as a WR

I think that’s all fair. Coleman’s lack of separation terrified me coming into the league and was only magnified once he got here. He has very good ball skills but caught 1/2 of his targets. That’s a function of never being open. He will never be able to be a focal point of the offense if every throw to him is a jump ball. He can only be used occasionally if that’s who he is. He is a big slot on a team with 1, or even 2, superior slot options. I promise that the Bills aren’t feeling good about him at this point. Is he doomed? No. Is he limited and potentially no more than a number 4? Yes and maybe 100% agree on the lack of a plan at WR. Here we are again with it as one of their biggest needs.

Coleman was not good. No need to make excuses. Compare him to the next WR that went off the board. Kincaid has been a massive disappointment. If we want to say Rousseau is good, fine. Next year, do you want to be the team paying him $20M a year for this production? I sure don’t. That’s what someone is going to do. I love Taron. I said prior to last season that he may be the second best player on the team. He has been an elite slot corner (and still could be). This was a bad year. I think that the OTs are both borderline top 5 at their position. It is a strength for sure.

If you think that the TOP of the Bills roster and the TOP of the Ravens roster are comparable, we disagree (by a lot). The same goes for Philly and a bunch of other teams.

I think that this is possible. He was really, really good this year. It’s a little chicken and egg to me. Would he be elite with more usage or would his efficiency drop making him worse with more usage? I don’t know the answer. He’s always been a part of a shared backfield. All that I know is that he is closer to “one of the 5 best at his position” than just about anyone other than Josh (and maybe the OTs).

Sure, again, convince yourself of whatever helps you sleep. When the top 100 lists come out the Bills have Dawkins in the 90’s (if he makes the list) and Josh near the top 10. That’s what it has been. The Ravens have Henry, Hamilton, Humphrey, Stanley, Van Noy, Linderbaum, Flowers, the TEs, etc… You’re missing the point. The conversation is about TOP END talent. The best of the Ravens players are better compared to their peers than the best of the Bills players are compared to their peers.

They don’t have enough elite talent and haven’t had enough elite talent. I’m sorry for those of you that have thought otherwise. The Bills roster 12-53 has been as good as anyone’s 12-53. Their top 12 players may not be in the top 25 in the league. We’ve tried to cling to “everybody eats” or “next man up” but we are in the same place that we have been for years. The Bills have an elite QB, strong depth and not enough elite talent/playmaking to get over the hump. We’ve tried to convince ourselves that the Kincaids, Rousseaus, and Colemans of the world would be good players. Those guys are average, average and not good. We look at Shakir as elite. He’s good at what he does but he’s a high end role player. The same goes for Oliver. The OL is really good, Benford & Cook are becoming elite (top 5ish at their position) players. Other than that it is Josh and some solid players. I always look at it like this, “if you took a league average QB (think Geno Smith) and replaced every teams starting QB with him what would the record be?” If you replaced Josh with Geno, I think that the Bills are like 6-11. If you replaced Lamar with Geno, I think that they’re 11-6.

Bob Kraft has a net worth of $11.8B. He was paying $55 each time, in a strip mall, in Jupiter.

Lack of separation…

You are probably right. The situation was weird. It was a little like Samuel earlier in the year. I’m absolutely open to Cooper returning but I want him to play if that’s the case. If you use that 6 targets a game that I threw out there, it’s 102 targets on the year. Maybe he catches 70 of them, at an average of 14 YPR, and you are looking at a 1,000 yard(ish) WR. That’s not a stretch.

I don’t think the question is, “what is a bigger problem offense or defense?” The question is, “what is the quickest way to close the gap with KC?” The 2 most impactful moves are an alpha WR & an elite pass rusher. Adding a good safety or run stuffing DT doesn’t make the impact of those other moves (hence the contracts those positions get). This thread is about a guy that could have potentially closed that gap by making timely, explosive plays.

I was on board with Johnson earlier this year because I thought he could get open. He’s a disaster as a person and they need to stay away. The Bills were so concerned with how many targets that Diggs had that they overcorrected with “everybody eats.” Once they traded for Cooper they should have made a point to give him at least 6 targets a game. He’s capable of dominating games. They didn’t and the whole situation didn’t fix the problem. If they address the top of the depth chart next year they need to prioritize getting the ball to their best. It doesn’t have to be forced like it was to Diggs but you need to throw the ball to your best players more often than you throw it to your lesser players.

Beasley and Diggs were all-pros as Bills. Coleman’s future is a role player. He is a slot WR playing outside. He can’t get open from there and this isn’t new. That’s how you end up catching 1/2 of the targets. Every ball is contested. They had different issues then (play calling, OL, pass rush, coaching). Our offense is ahead of the defense but not good enough. The biggest impact that the Bills can make this offseason is an alpha WR and an elite pass rusher. The Bills need better talent at the most important positions (excluding QB & LT).