Kirby Jackson

Hate to break it to you but no one is going to say “no thanks” to $4m to $5M a year for that.

I’m not surprised. When buying naming rights you want brands that are aligned. Barstool and Bills fans go together like peanut butter and jelly. I know some people take offense to that but it’s true. I’ve been to lots of other NFL Stadiums and we are different. Our extremes are infinitely more extreme than anywhere else. Our normal would be extreme in a lot of other places. With that being said I doubt that Erie County will go for that. If the number is big enough though you’ll start to see a little fight brewing between PSE and the county.

I so desperately wanted that video to find it’s way onto the inter webs. I had this vision, if we had fans, where we could have a poster as big as a section that’s a screenshot of Bob’s big moment. That would have been the most epic troll job ever. Picture playing the Pats and Bobby is in his suite entertaining his guests. Directly across from his suite is a massive rollout of his o face. He’d have to sell the team ???

Same reason, just to be in that environment. FWIW, I’m not planning to go sit in a parking lot in OP. I just suspect that some people will and that’s the reasoning.

You just watch in the parking lot. At LSU about half of the people at the tailgate never enter the game. You have 100,000 people watching from their tailgate setup.

He was in the AAF or XFL. He’s only 31 and was good there.

He just feels limited to me. I hope that I’m wrong. He’s a bruiser but doesn’t feel dynamic enough. He will be an upgrade to Gore but I don’t see how he takes touches from Motor.

Give me Marquette King!!!!

Another one: - The 1st offensive play of the season will be a deep ball to Diggs. We play that trash Jets secondary and Daboll loves to do stuff like that.

I don’t know if this belongs here or not. I’m WAY higher on Singletary than most of this board and WAY lower on Moss than most of this board. I don’t think the split ever falls below 70/30. Moss may get the red zone carries (although Motor scored 66 rushing TDs in 3 years at FAU). I say Singletary has north of 1,200 yards and Moss has about 1/2 of that.

NFL: - 3 Teams from the AFC North make the playoffs (Ravens, Browns, Steelers) with Pittsburgh as the division winner. - Kyler Murray wins MVP - Pats miss the playoffs - Cowboys and KC have the 1st round byes Bills: - Win the AFC East by 2+ games - Allen goes to the Pro Bowl - Win a playoff game - Addison has < 5 sacks

That’s not even in the neighborhood of what he’s going to get. He will be WAY closer to 4-60 than 4-30.

I think that this is certainly true and I am one of those people. Late last year Murphy was plying really good football. He isn’t very good against the run but he’s a good pass rusher. He will help this team if healthy.

I still think that was the right play. My point always was that he was a fringe NFL player and easy to replace. You keep the lottery ticket over that. I felt the same way with Mike Jasper and Jason Peters. Hogan has proven to be a back of the roster receiver. You can throw a rock and find his production as the Jets just did. He has a shot to make the team with the worst receiver room in the NFL. He really showed us. He’s a scrub. I’ll bow out now though because there’s no use rehashing it all. I‘m not changing my mind that it was the wrong decision at the time. Hogan’s 28 yards a game could’ve been found anywhere.

I know the difference. That’s my point. You don’t pay that kind of money for a NT. You do for a 3 technique that disrupts the passing game. That’s not Clark. He’s a very good player but I’d take DJ Reader at 4 years and $53M over Kenny Clark at 4 years and $70M all day. The NT market has been reset though (clearly). Oliver should have never played NT at Houston. He was like 285 lbs. He won the Outland Trophy in 2017 because of how dominant he was in 2016. He had as good of a freshman season as just about anyone ever. It is the same reason that Grant Delpit won the Thorpe award this year. He wasn’t even the best DB (and maybe not the 2nd best DB) on his own team!! It’s reputation.

Oh I know but that’s still insane. He’s primarily a run stuffer that gets some pressure. He had 15 pressures and 6 sacks in each of the last 2 years. Clark isn’t exactly Aaron Donald. He’s a really good player but he’s not a superstar and doesn’t play a prime position. Now maybe they expect him to continue growing as a pass rusher but he has to if he’s going to justify that deal. This is exactly right. The guys in trouble with a cap decline are guys like Spencer Long, AJ Klein, & Ty Nsekhe. It’s depth veterans or fringe starters. The best players don’t get squeezed.

You have nose tackles getting $17.5M a year!! I’ll be really surprised if/when Tre signs his extension of its let’s than $20M AAV.

But it’s all based on comps. There were no projections saying that Spain was going to get $5m a year coming off a season where he didn’t give up a sack. The Jets were paying Winters almost $8M a year. There is a market value that’s pretty universally accepted amongst the league and if you’re below it, it’s a win for the team. Spain absolutely got less than projected and didn’t shop his services. That happens sometimes and when a guy leaves money on the table you can use it elsewhere. Spain leaving money on the table leaves more flexibility for Milano and/or Tre. It is kind of like the home buying process. No one goes to buy a house and thinks, “it might be $200K or it might be $1.6M.” You generally know roughly what it will cost. Spain went for less than anticipated. He was a foreclosure.

I don’t think Tre signs unless it resets the market. It’s as much about the optics as anything. I don’t think that Tre really cares if the AAV is $19.99M or $20.01M. If Jalen signs at exactly $20M though you can bet that is the dealbreaker. I don’t think you could get Tre for less than $18M today. That’s the floor. You are looking at an AAV between $18M - $22M depending on Ramsey. That’s why I went right in the middle.

As long as we are guessing: Milano - 4 years and $48M Tre - 5 years and $100M

In general this is a problem that Bills fans have. In our defense we haven’t had a lot of experience with second contracts. With that being said we need to stop looking at a player in a vacuum through the lens of what we’d give them. We need to look at what others kind of like him got paid. That’s entirely how these contracts work. It’s like buying a house. You don’t look at a house and say, “I kind of like this one. I think that I’ll put in an offer at $525k.” When Blake Martinez gets $10M the nicer house in that neighborhood doesn’t sell for $8M.

I think Spain is the 2nd best OL on the team next to Dawkins.

If you really dig in though it was primarily 3 games (Titans, Den and the finale against the Jets).

This one is definitely trickier. Dawkins at 4 for $60M felt pretty fair to both sides. It was a lot less complicated. Milano’s situation is fluid but I think we are dreaming to think that it is below $10M AAV as of today. That would be a bargain. The market is just different. Bandit just gave Martinez & Littleton as examples.