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I would bet Andy Reid dresses McCoy for the Super Bowl, out of respect for their long relationship. If they are winning, no doubt he gets a carry or two.

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I know what you mean, and I don't disagree....but I have to say, I do miss Monday Night Football being "can't miss tv". The last few years (though ratings were apparently up this year), I just don't get too excited about it anymore, unless it is a particularly interesting (or Bills-centric) matchup. At one time, I would never miss a Monday Night Football game...now it is almost as bad as those Thursday Night games.

Funny, this past summer I went to see the Rolling Stones, for the 20-something time...it was a great show, but one weird thing I noticed was that Keith Richards and Ron Wood were not smoking...I thought "good for them...old geezers trying to get healthy in their old age". After some reading, I came to find out that they didn't smoke on stage, because of all of the fines, and threatened legal action that was threatened them from previous tours.

Funny thing is, if Sammy had never played for the Bills, and had the exact career elsewhere, we would think it was a solid signing to bring him in to Buffalo, at the right price.

It may have been slight, and I don't have any fancy stats to back it up, but I really think over the last month of the season he did show some improvement on the deep ball. I felt the first part of the season, his deep passes were thrown with the intent, mainly, of not getting picked off. Most were just absurdly off target...almost gave me flashes of EJ Manuel. I felt his confidence started growing, around the time of that Dallas game, and more of deep passes were catchable. And it carried on the rest of the season...unfortunately, because of the issues early on, I don't think they wanted to give him a lot more opportunities.

He is a great receiver when healthy...but his injury history scares me. He has missed 29 games in 4 years. Only played in 9 games the last 2 seasons And he will be 32 by the time next season starts. Definitely interested, but not as interested as I might have been 3 years ago .

I know, it sounds like sour grapes, and I hate being one to blame officials for a loss....god knows the Bills did plenty to shoot themselves in the foot in the last 20 minutes...but I so agree with this. We always hear the experts raving about certain players "situational awareness". The laud Belechik for knowing the rules, and taking advantage of them...so whey the ***** have the rules that define a fair catch, if the players don't have to actually adhere to them? I have been watching football for 45 years or so, and it is only in very recent years that this whole notion of a player "giving himself up" has become a thing... sure, it would have been a cheap touchdown, because of somebodys mental blunder....but how many times have we come out on the wrong end of these kind of things? Nobody says "well, it is just common sense that Allen didn't mean to fumble the ball, so it is not really a fumble". It is actually pretty infuriating....and the way the announcers laughed it off as if it was nuts to think a guy is expected to follow the actual rules of the game... sorry, after all these years, I don't know how many more "miracles" I can take!

Our punter only blows, sometimes...it is so strange. He is so inconsistent. He had a couple of really great games this year, but you can almost bank on it that he will have one awful kick per game.

100% agree...I think you could make a strong case for Phillips being our defensive MVP, though I won't quibble with Tre'Davious. I really hope they can re-sign him.

Haven't said it in a while, but I hate PFF!

I gotta say, I have always had a soft spot in my sports heart for the Browns....great fans, and I have great empathy for them. I have always pulled for them, when their fortunes didn't intersect with the Bills. I must say, though, this current edition of the team is about as unlikable a team as I can remember, in some time, anywhere. Mayfield is a dip-*****. Jarvis Landry and OBJ are both very talented (would love to have a guy with the talent Landry has, in Buffalo), but both insufferable douches. Not to mention, they changed from one of the all-time classic uniforms, to these hideous togs..they look like tootsie-rolls. And now, they are going through another coach...I think Kitchens is a pretty bad head coach, and his firing is warranted...but he never should have been hired in the first place.

Been watching the Bills since 1972, when I was 7. I have missed only one game since 1987 (the trouncing by the Colts in 1989 that lead to the birth of the "bickering Bills". I swear to to you, i can remember vividly the OJ seasons, the "talkin' proud" years of the Chuck Knox, the misery of the mid-80's, the Super Bowl years, Flutie/Johnson wars...I remember the seasons, the games....but after about 2004, the seasons are just a blur to me...I have a hard time differentiating all the 6-10, 7-9 seasons....the other day, Schoop mentioned Kyle Orton, and I had almost completely forgotten that he played for us...all the losing takes its' toll. The McBeane era, so far, has been a blast...

I guess so. I had never heard his work before...for some reason, I assumed an ex-NFL QB would have a slightly more measured or cerebral tone...he sounded more like Fred Smerlas, without the accent. I would hate it if our broadcast teams were this un-professional. Living in Texas, I occasionally here the Texans and/or Cowboys radio broadcasts while I am driving, and while they are homers to be sure, they aren't complete a-holes.

Was going to start a separate thread on this, but then I figured it fit in this one... did anyone happen to hear the Patriots radio broadcast of this past weekends game? I don't make it a habit to listen to this stuff, but I watched a Bills/Patriots game video recap that used the Patriots radio broadcast calls. I was kinda shocked, so I went to NFL Game Pass to make sure I wasn't imagining things... Scott Zolak (former QB, Patriots radio color commentator) really hates Josh Allen, and the Bills. I am normally watching Bills games on tv, so I don't really listen to Murph and Woods radio calls, but I am pretty sure they are nowhere near as over the top...I suppose Zolak is trying to keep the Boston tradition of Johnny Most and Tom Heinson, with the absurd homerism.... Just a few examples of what I am talking about: At one point, after an Allen run, Zolak refers to the "perfeclty legal hit" that Allen took in the last game the two teams played (when Allen got knocked out) and the "crying" that McDermott did over the hit. - After Allen connects with Dawson Knox on the goal line (right before the first half ended), Zolak asks rhetorically "How do you let that bum complete that pass"? He then says emphatically "You just can't let a QB like that make plays like that". - After the td pass to Dion Dawkins, he insists that it shouldn't count, because he didn't report as a an eligible receiver...obviously Zolak was wrong. He did, however give credit to "Dabes", who I can only assume was with NE when Zolak was palying for them. He complimented Daboll numerous times. - After repeatedly insisting Allen couldn't handle the blitz (he even says Allen is "garbage" when blitzed), he writes of Allens' perfect TD pass to John Brown as "lucky", and says Allen "just chucked it up there". - There were other things, non-Allen related. He said the Bills were "a bunch of punks" for laughing at Julian Edeleman when he went down, trying to avoid a PI. Anyone who was watching could see that he was faking, and he admitted it after the game. He also insisted that the Bills were playing dirty, and that the refs were letting them get away with murder all game with late hits, and "extra-curricular" activity. Was Zolak watching a different game than me?

All ESPN is anymore, is hot takes and argument. To work there, you have to be willing to say stupid *****, just to keep it moving. Somebody says something controversial, and it becomes the hot topic in the ESPN universe for the next 24-48 hours...it is their business model. They make their own news, and then analyze it to death.

Michael Lombardi, former Browns GM, as wll as a pro-personnel guy for multiple franchises, was just on One Bills Live, ripping on Allen pretty hard too. He wasn't quite as harsh as the HQ guys, but he seems unimpressed with Josh. When Murphy asked him if the Bills "will be okay with Allen", he just kind of ignored the question...his reasoning was the usual stuff: too inaccurate. He says Jackson and Darnold are the best QBs from that draft, and says Mayfield is a "system QB".

We will most likely play Houston, Tennessee or KC in the first round.... I feel pretty confident we can beat all of them, though KC would be the toughest. Even in our best years, Arrowhead has been a tough place for us to play.

Exactly! I really don't give a crud about their opinions, the announcers, for me, are simply there to remind me of the in-game situations (time left, time-outs etc etc)...I like them for that, and I will never be one of those who claims to turn the sound down, because the announcers get on my nerves that much. I realize, the stuff I want from them is all up on the screen all of the time anyways, but to me, I find all the graphics, fantasy stats etc etc more annoying than the announcers. On the rare occasion that I am stuck watching a Bills game in a bar, with no sound, or sound from another game, I don't enjoy the experience as much. The announcers, good or bad, are just part of the experience

Jeepers...The Duck was a freaking udrafted free agent QB, in his 4th start...he was their third string QB...what was Collinsworth (or anyone) supposed to say?

The only thing Bills fans seem to love almost as much as winning is taking offense at perceived slights from announcers...I don't know that Collinsworth was "excellent", but he was fine. The "Collinsworth" sucks mantra gets old. During the Super Bowl era it was Dierdorf...we always gotta hate somebody. It was nice to get the big network treatment for the second time in 3 weeks.

Personally, though I loved watching him play , you gotta swap out Favre for Elway.

I have never been to a game in Oakland, but in addition to 130-ish games in Buffalo, I have been to games in Atlanta, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Dallas, Detroit, Houston, Los Angeles (Raiders), Minnesota, New York, Pittsburgh, Seattle, Tampa Bay and Washington....14 NFL cities. My opinion on Buffalo may be tainted by the fact that I have been to so many more games there...but I would say Buffalo really does rank on the lower end of "fan behavior". Cleveland, Pittsburgh, New York and Washington round out my bottom 5. That is not to say I don't love the fan base, and enjoy game days in Buffalo more than the rest, but there has been a sort of "anything goes" vibe in Orchard Park for years. I haven't been to a game in Buffalo, since 2014, so it is possible things are a little more under control, but the last few games I went to (granted watching terrible football in bad weather for most of them) I gotta say, I was taken back a bit by how bad things were. For me, an adult male, I never felt in danger, but I would think twice (as my dad did before me, I am sure) about taking younger kids to a game.

I liked the call, because it worked...but I think had it not, that would have severely decreased our chance of having that chance to win in the waning moments of the game. I appreciate your explanation, and I get it, and maybe I am just being obstinate... but I still can't get past the idea that if you blow it on the 2 pt conversion, you now have to come up with a TD, and a field goal, and an extra point (which is not a "gimmie" any more), and less clock to work with.

I understand the reason why you would go for 2, but I think you have to go for the kick. Your defense just played too damn good to gamble their effort on one play, by an offense that was not exactly lighting it up. Not to change the subject: Forgive me if it is being discussed elsewhere, but did anyone else think it was a bit risky to go for 2, after the Beasley touchdown? They got it, so it looks like a great decision, but the ramifications of not converting, would have likely ended the game right there... I tuned in to the post-game show on GR (they are twice as bad as Schop and Bulldog, which is saying something). Nate Geary (I think that is the one who made the point) said that going for 1 pt there is just conservative "old thinking" football, and anyone who thinks otherwise just "doesn't understand football". He actually said "if you don't get it, you are down by 9 and you know what you have to do, you have it all in front of you". It was one of the more idiotic things I have heard in a while, and reminded me why I just can't do the GR post-game stuff any more. I am para-phrasing a little. In my opinion anyone who holds his opinion just doesn't understand math. Again, because they converted the 2 pt play, the point is moot...but if they didn't convert, they would be down by 2 scores, with time running out...they would need to score another td, get the ball back somehow, and then kick a field goal, or get another TD to win. Is this just "old-guy" thinking on my part?