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Damn I thought you were going to address the real truth that Johnny football will never be a quality NFL Starter.

I love it! This team needs to be more bad ass than pussies

Agreed. There is a ton of firings that need to happen, if we had a QB and offensive staff worth a **** we are THE team in the AFC this year.

Please put EJ in. I want him in now and the rest of the season so he can suck like he always has and always will then maybe...just maybe the EJ lovers will STFU already

Wow. Just when I think it can't get any worse when it comes to Bills fans evaluation of QB's....

I have a passionate viewpoint, Mr and Mrs. P needs to clean house from Brandon down through the waterboy.

Actually common football sense is what keeps him from going back to EJ. He knows EJ isnt ever going to be a quality starter, why waste anymore time on him? Whaley >>> Marrone? How do you figure? The guy was a major factor in drafting a QB bust (EJ), traded away next years first for a WR who from a talent level we could have gotten comperable staying in our current draft spot. Traded away and ran up our cap on a WR that was just "cut" and then traded away a 4th for RB that hardly ever plays. Sorry Whaley needs to go as well So says the biggest EJ homer in the Universe! Pot....meet kettle.

"Sadly, he's a major upgrade over first-round bust EJ Manuel." Yep. And why isn't Whaley on here? Drafted EJ (but now tries to push it to a Buddy pick), Traded away a 1st round pick next year (could have been used on a QB) for a WR who we could have gotten a similar talent in the draft spot we were in, Trades a 5th rounder for a WR that is now going to be cut but still eat up more than 5 mill in 2015 cap room, trades a 4th rounder for a RB seldom used. Whaley should be gone.

Are you EJ or related to him? I swear to God that is the only way you can keep backing that worthless POS so hard. The kid will NEVER amount to **** in the NFL as a starter. He is a failed, bust of a first rounder. Just add him to the rest of the Trash the Bills have brought in at QB. I would rather just see him cut after the draft and be done with it

Yes. From the top down fire them all and start from scratch. This "retooling" BS that has been going on since 1996 is pure BS. Blow it all up and do it right.

Why one sucks and one sucks worse (EJ) and will never amount to anything (EJ). I presume you think starting EJ must = it gives him some chance to redeem himself?

Spot on! He is correct

He did a good job today, but hasn't shown he was worth losing next years draft pick for.

I can't say the Defense is great. Front four got NO pressure, I don't see one sack in the stat column against one of the greatest statues at QB in NFL history. DB's lack a lot to be desired as seen this season. Get Kiko back and the LB's are really solid. We are a good defense, but far from Great. That said, see my post on season record. I hope Pegula fires EVERYONE.

Oakland tore up SF so that team is not an automatic win anymore. No offense still, no pass rush today out of the front 4. No way in hell we beat GB and NE at NE with home field on the line. I can honestly say I think this team finishes 7-9. Will say it again....I pray Terry Pegula completely cleans house. He won't...but I can still pray. We must get the old way of thinking at OBD out of the building for good. Brandon can do marketing only, but no more can he come near working with the rest of the organization. Whaley, all the scouts, all the coaches, all the trainers I mean all the way down to the Waterboy....all gone. Start over fresh.

Realists usually = Tools to homers.

Not going anywhere, here to tell it like it is. Someone actually has to not be the lemming/ Kool Aid drinker

Sad thing is although they may draft first, Oakland is a hell of alot ahead of us having found their QB

Hey we tried. Aren't the Bills all about feel good Moral Victories?

Keep the idiot that traded away next years first rounder for a WR that has mostly dissapeared in the 2nd half of the season AND we could have gotten a similar talent where we were? Fire....them....All!

I am still praying Mr. P fires EVERYONE. I mean every every freaking person down to the towel boy.

Exactly Bandit, I am not budging on my stance as its correct and no need to. The guy doesn't have it just like the many before him since Kelly retired in 96'. Why would I change my stance when the facts and evidence are clear and history has done nothing but repeat its self in Buffalo?

Actually its not esp, when you have seen the same **** for what 18 years now? Yes many fans these days can tell if a guy is going to be worth a damn or not. The NFL wants you to think its some big assed deal, when in fact they out think themselves most of the damn time and spend millions to do it. "well if you know so much why are you an NFL scout, GM blah blah blah". Um its a good ol' boys network. It doesn't matter what you know, its who you blow to get jobs there. And if you can't tell I am not great at kissing ass and I am not blowing anyone. Besides, who says any of our scouts were really sold on EJ? Scouts get asked opinions and over rode by GM's all the damn time. But, to sum up, yeah its not that hard to see EJ has the same issues as in college and try as he might, drink his milk, read his playbook, say his prayers, Little EJ is an average Backup in the NFL at best.

Ok let me try to clarify, I don't give a rats ass he is a good team mate, supportive, working hard, saves kittens, blah blah blah. He just doesn't have it period and I am damn sick and tired of this inept front office and many fans (like you) trying to make excuses for a ****ty QB. Nearly TWO DECADES its been the same Bull ****. Trade for or draft a clearly lesser talent that is no more than a back up in the NFL And fans for YEARS will back this assclown when its clear he doesnt have it. And billions of excuses like its the line, he needs time, you dont know you are guessing blah blah bull **** is said over and over and over and the result is the same. I posted this to show if a clearly greater talent in RGIII can be benched and odds are cut this offseason there is no reason to keep a much lesser talent who had greater knocks against him on our roster hoping against hope (you know like Collins, hobart, RJ, JP, Trent, Bledsoe, Flutie, and on and on and on) that EJ will somehow buck his entire playing DNA and magically Get it. Not gonna happen. Cut his ass after the draft (at least TRY to BS teams we aren't taking a QB in round 2 or trade up to round 1 to get one...) and lets move on. But don't worry, this front office is too egotistical to admit they clearly !@#$ed up and EJ Will NEVER amount to **** as a starter in the NFL. But hey, I will be here to remind you next year of the same thing. Granted he will have half assed stats which might show some slight glimmer of hope (like those listed above) so you will still be trying to make more excuses to keep him here further putting us behind in actually getting where we want to go as a team. Oh and just so I was clear, I don't give a **** he is a good guy, I would rather have an !@#$ who is a top 3-5 QB and gives us a chance at a Superbowl and maybe wins one or two.

Bottom line the NFL catches up quickly, but then again nothing has changed. Other than Wilson the scrambling QB's haven't won superbowls. Big Ben did it from the pocket, John Elway learned to stay there and hand off to his RB (Granted minus one really cool run/ helicopter flip). Football overall at the NFL level will never change. Drop back, make reads, deliver the football.