Prickly Pete

I know more because this girl told me. And if you doubt that they are connected to nail salons, just google a few and it will be true more often than not. Grandma's should know better than to support exploitation for cheap manicures!

Yes, she was. You don't know what his involvement was. To claim he is involved in sex trafficking is a leap at this point. I acknowledged his wealth and status...none of that proves he was involved at any level of crime higher than a misdemeanor.

I met a girl that worked at one of these...a college student, paying her way through school. Plenty of people just on this board didn't know anything about the human trafficking aspect of the massage parlors, so why should Kraft? I'm curious to see if there are any indications that he wasn't just another customer (despite his wealth and status) getting HJ at a local massage parlor...that's a misdemeanor. These places are almost all connected to a nail salon next door, with the same owners and likely with the same employees... should the women that patronize these nail salons know better, and know they are supporting human trafficking, and be condemned?

Yeah, but what's in it? Nucci says he knows... The indication from the police is that it was either a BJ, or a HJ. I think tying Kraft to what goes on at the place behind the scenes at this point, is jumping to conclusions.

What did he get?

Yeah, that is what's so suspicious. If they are involved behind the scenes, you would to think they would have a bit nicer of a venue.

It's completely ridiculous. He has a stunning girlfriend...it's weird. I am very interested to see what was going on. For all we know, he just likes to get a good massage after a game of golf, with a handJ thrown in at the end.

If Kraft can't be connected to the "sex slave" "sex trafficking" aspect, and was just basically some old guy getting a handjob at the end of a massage, I don't think this is a big deal. If he has deeper involvement, then it may be. Getting a handjob is hardly a big deal. Like, there isn't even an exchange of body fluids. To act like it's some kind of sexual assault is ridiculous.

Yes.

I think one of the problems is that after publicly declaring their opinions (on just about everything, and anything), the posts are permanently documented (or can be), so people just dig in deeper, grasping for anything to save face, or cling to the thinnest shred of an argument to avoid admitting they were wrong. And of course, you virtually NEVER see someone come back and post "I was wrong about ____", at best they will just avoid the topic.

Anything to connect Trump's name to this, huh? You're dreaming if you think Trump is the bigger name they have mentioned.

I don't know if it will cause our downfall, but social media is really the change that has brought out a lot of the conflicts. Society has to adjust the noise.

This will be a very interesting thread to revisit when this situation resolves. I think the Patriot hate is fueling some overreactions.

You mean like the FBI against Trump?

Prostitution will likely have to be legalized eventually. It's legal in many countries (like Canada, though someone will probably say it's not legal there "technically"). There is some kind of quote that "20% of the men are having sex with 80% of the women"...surely an exaggeration, but judging by what I see and hear around me, there is a definite disparity. Something's got to give.

He is not going to lose the team. Judging by the amount of massage parlors that have popped up across the country, he has enough company in his vice, that this will just be a a source of ridicule. You guys have your hopes set way to high.

It's a misdemeanor.

Waaaahhhhh!!!!!!!!!!

WOW. They act really stoned, but I guess they were just bombed.

He blows.

I kinda agree. I don't think Brady can get the most out of a guy like Beckham. And Beckham would complain. I think the Pats are going to move to more emphasis on the running game. Beckham is a pain in the ass. He thrives on being an a-hole. That's his specialty, being a douchebag. However great he plays football, it will always be secondary to being an a-hole.

I would love to see it. I want to see Brady decline with Beckham throwing him under the bus. It would be perfect.

Wayne Roger Williams? William Rodney Williams?

This is a great soap opera, I just want it dubbed into English. I wish the Patriots would sign him.

I'm not the least bit worried that the Bills will sign Beckham. Won't happen.