Prickly Pete

I'm not really involved in the discussion about the judge's decision (I haven't fully read the comments in this thread regarding that). I believe that the Patriots cheated, I just don't think it's a big deal. Spy Gate was, Deflate-gate isn't.

The hard-heads are you guys. Let me lay it out for you. People are claiming that a softer ball is easier to catch, and easier to hold on to. Regardless of what the Patriots did or didn't do, it would stand to reason that, if a softer ball is easier to catch, and easier to hold on to, then teams would want their balls at the minimum LEGAL PSI. And if many teams have in fact changed to the lowest possible PSI, there should be a significant drop in the number of fumbles this season, no?

I see, so it's only effective if it's LESS than 12.5 PSI... effing ridiculous! "You gotta get it down to 11.0, and then the magic kicks in, Tom" - Bill Belichick to Tom Brady I hope the Bills are using the low PSI.... Wawrow, get on it! I have inquired, and no one seems to have any answer, but I'm guessing that teams haven't. I would think it would be a common question posed to coaches this season.

How do you know Belichick had anything to do with it? I think it was all Brady, who liked to have a better grip, and didn't think he would get in much trouble for such a minor indiscretion, if he was caught. And again I ask, if it really cuts down on fumbles and is easier to catch, why haven't teams throughout the league switched to the lowest allowable PSI for their balls?

? Paranoia. I wasn't trying to twist your words. I'm just mentioning that I would think teams would adapt that part of how the Patriots approached PSI. I'm not exonerating them, I'm pointing out that lower PSI leads to leas fumbles, the every team should be using balls as the lowest allowable PSI. (Work on your syntax)

I keep mentioning that I wonder if other teams have decided to use balls inflated to the minimum PSI. With all the supposed advantages (I don't know if they are true or not), wouldn't every team make that change? Easier to catch, less fumbles....

Thanks man. I never would have thought of that. I'm not moralizing, I'm just anticipating what I think will happen.

I think I have explained it already (see other posts). I will say that I could also believe that the Patriots wouldn't be above framing another team say, the Baltimore Ravens.

One more time... I haven't claimed that either of the previous scandals were conspiracies against the Patriots. Right now, this season, there is a feeding frenzy developing around the Patriots. No doubt there are unscrupulous people with other teams, or with other organizations, who probably wouldn't be above taking advantage of the current anti-Patriot sentiment pervading the league. (calling people names on this message board is discouraged)

You might be underestimating the masochism of some fans (on a Bills board!).

I stand by it. It looks like every game is going to be scrutinized, and every beaten team will make accusations. The owners hate them, the commissioner hates them, other coaches and players hate them, and fans hate them. Another "scandal" is want the mob wants, and if they can't find one, they will create one. I didn't say that. I believe they have cheated, and neither "Spy-gate" or "Deflate-gate" were frame ups. Don't twist my words.

Okay, I'm sure the NFL, and the networks will feel your absence.

Nope. It's just that people are so emotionally involved with what the Patriots, yet they claim it's ruining their "love" for the NFL. Perhaps, but while they may be losing their love, they are becoming even more passionately involved (and they aren't turning off the the TV, or avoiding click bait on he subject). People "love to hate", maybe even more than they "love to love". You're dreaming. Ratings for the Patriots will be huge, and their games will be featured on national TV prominently (because the networks are driven by ratings...people will want to watch them). The next logical step in all this drama, is for another organization to try to frame the Patriots.

I get the feeling that the Patriots are ruining love of the NFL so much, that most fans are going to go out of their way to watch and discuss at length, EVERY Patriots game this season.

He is in a very bad mood, because he just witnessed how bad his Steelers really are.

Really? YoloinOhio, on 13 Mar 2015 - 11:05 AM, said: I'll be surprised if he makes the 53. It's not that I think the Bills will miss him, but some of "the finest football minds" here at TBD, spewed condescending nonsense at me concerning Chandler this off-season... http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/177972-pats-signed-chandler-because-belichick-is-a-genius/page-5

Waaaah!

It could have been interpreted either way. Many here have crapped all over Chandler.

He had crap QB's too. Chandler is going to have a good year.

True or not, they are still "accusations".

Accusations are going to be flying around all season long.

I'm very excited. And the only time among those listed, that I was excited at all, was when Fitz was 5-2.

I think Tyrod is gonna be very good.

We shall see, Biddy.

The 3rd season hasn't started yet, let alone ended. And the "3rd String" designation might not be what it seems in this case. EJM will get on the field this season, if only to try to raise his trade value. We will see how he does. Regardless, it's unlikely that he will be with the Bills next season, but I could see him developing enough that a team will give him a shot to start. I still can't figure out any reason why so many seem to want EJM to fail? It can only be because they have ripped into him, and want to be proved "right".