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Just now, JOSH HUFF said:
ABSOLUTELY!!
I think Bean and the Boys know what there doing.
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Did you watch the video they named a few and these are indisputably. These are measured things he does better or as good as those QB’s
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I love it. If I was Allen I would watch that video every day to keep me grounded and working hard for the City of Buffalo. Great motivation tool
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It's nice to do stuff that is even better or the same as Brady, Marino, Farve and Rogers. real measurables only the greats have
Now i'm excited. Ready for all the winning
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6 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:
Jamarcus Russels was better
did you watch the video, no he was not. these are real measurables, not made up. Also number one on wunderlic test. Your dreaming
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I’m on the train especially when Some of the things Josh does are better Then Brady, Rogers and Marino.
Proof you ask well get ready for lots of winning boys
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Yes they are especially when your being compared to Brady, Rogers and marino like in this video
all I can say is wow. We have are franchise QB
off the charts pick by bean and the boys
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1 hour ago, finn said:
Troy Aikman pointed out that very few quarterbacks who were inaccurate in college have made it in the NFL. That got me thinking: are there ANY quarterbacks with Allen's low percentage (in a weak conference, too) who have made it? I'm genuinely curious.
Yes Jim Kelly, Brett Farve and Stafford all lower percentage throwers then Allen. .
I rest my case
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15 minutes ago, The Alpha Fire said:
You gotta be over the moon today. Lol
Not really. I had posted many times these were my preferred QB’s Allen, Mayfield, Rudolph and Jackson. But then at the end last 48 hours I came around on Rosen. So I would have been excited to have Rosen he is very good. So but yes I’m happy because I love Josh Allen and his arm and mobility. Time will tell but Bean traded up and got his guy. I support this Bills new regime. So I will trust he made the right call here.
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2 minutes ago, Magox said:
I want to preface these series of thoughts with the fact that I was hoping for Rosen over Allen. With that said one of the common gripes that I am hearing from some of our fans on this board is that Josh Allen is the bigger risk for this franchise than Rosen. The argument goes something along the lines that Rosen is the best pure passer, the most NFL ready therefore he's close to a sure thing. Whereas Allen is the big armed QB who is inaccurate similar to EJ Manuel and he's got Bust written all over him.
On the surface this argument makes sense.
However, there are huge gaping holes with this argument.
A) One of the big things that people talked about including lots of whispers from NFL personnel is that Rosen was not a leader of men. Some questioned his demeanor and whether or not his heart was fully in the game. I don't know whether or not that stuff is true or not but it was definitely out there. I will say this, the little that I observed of him I definitely saw a smugness about him. Does that matter? I don't know. But it was certainly palpable and if I saw that after a few interviews then I'm certain that this reputation was observed by many others as well. The fact that his ex coach Mora could not give him a full-throated endorsement and even picked his in-state rival as being the QB who should be picked first to me screams of a red flag. Sure, Mora tried backtracking some and equivocating why he said that, but the bottom line is that he didn't feel the urge to gush about the player he coached.
B) His injury concerns. Will he be a Bradford sort of player? I think that is a fair question. He's had a couple concussions and I believe a shoulder injury that kept him out for some time. He's not the most mobile QB, tends to hold on to the ball too long sometimes because he's a QB that likes to try to make plays but if you are in the NFL and you don't have great protection and you hold on to the ball too long and you are prone to some injuries, it's stands to reason to believe he could be an injury prone QB in this league. That is a risk.
Allen on the other hand is a big hulking QB that can not only shake off arm tackles but he's very mobile and makes amazing throws on the run. Considering the offensive line we have, this is probably a better fit than Rosen is essentially just a pocket passer.
While Allen has his shortcomings primarily in the accuracy department, it is an overblown charge that people make and it is without doubt in many cases an on-the-surface observation primarily to the famed 56% completion rate. There certainly is some there there. But a few things you have to keep in mind.
A) This was a down-the-field sort of throwing offense which is more susceptible to producing higher incompletion rates
B) His offensive line was very weak and he was constantly under duress.
C) His WR's were very poor and they weren't able to get a lot of separation.
His intermediate and long range passing is really good, where he struggles are his short passes. That is something that will have to be worked on and to me that is more a matter of setting his feet/mechanics and from what I've been reading it is something that he has worked on and improved, as evidenced in the Senior bowl game. He was the best performing QB that attended this year.
The guy is also an anticipation thrower that can hit receivers in small windows. He's also a very intelligent guy and hard worker and a leader or men. Where he needs some work on the mental aspect are his progressions which of course is a very important element. To me, this is his biggest risk into becoming a franchise QB.
While they both have their risks, it is a fallacy from my point of view to believe that Allen is the bigger risk considering that Rosen may have troubles leading his teammates and his injury risks.
There is a reason why not only was the whisper campaign in NFL evaluator/GM circles in full effect to "stay away" from Rosen and the fact that teams in need of QB's early on decided to forgo him, not to mention that most mocks had Allen being selected over Rosen. It's not because he doesn't have the talent, it's because of these other concerns.
Rosen could very well end up being the better QB, but the risks are there and they are reasonably undeniable. Again, this is not so much an argument of who is going to be the better QB it's to address the fallacy that Allen is the bigger risk.
I love this post and thanks for taking the time to write it.
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1 minute ago, Rosen-not-Chosen said:
I'd like the Bills to be a good team, after many decades of ****. How bout you? If that's what you really want, you'd have a problem with this pick as well.
Rosen was right there...
Where was he. Bills had no intention of drafting him. Bills traded up to get their QB. Now it’s time to
see how it works out. Year one with this regime and they made the playoffs. That’s pretty good in my book.
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2 minutes ago, Rosen-not-Chosen said:
I'm not going to follow Rosen per se, but I will from time to time remind everyone why the Bills still suck and the Cards don't.
So you are not really a Rosen fan, your just hear to Twitch with a B. Do you even like the Bills ?
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25 minutes ago, Rosen-not-Chosen said:
I'm here to chronicle the careers of Rosen vs Allen. Should be fun.
Beane screwed up, I'll be here beating that drum until Rosen retires.
would you like us to pitch in and buy you a drum ?. If we do, can you post youtube videos every week while your watching the Arizona Cardinals & Josh Rosen play every week. Just wondering if you will in fact follow through. Maybe 2 bills drive fourm can pin your drum post. That way we can keep track of your drumming. I love your passion for Rosen you could also post your drumming posts on Rosen’s twitter feed too.
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5 minutes ago, Rosen-not-Chosen said:
We would not have to go through the next 3 years of watching an inevitable trainwreck bust at the QB position, AGAIN, if Pegula knew how to hire a front office. The "see how it works out" crowd is all we have been doing as a fan base for the last ~23 years. No more of this crap please.
Well you are free to go root for the Arizona Cardinals. No reason to stay if your not happy.
You mean the front office that got us into the playoffs in there 1st year after missing for 17 years.
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16 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
when the Bills drafted Whitner over Ngata and Maybin over Orakpo. The fans made the right call in those cases over the Bills' Front Office.
It does not remind me of anything yet. We have to see how this works out. Bottom line, Bills traded up
so they went and got their guy. They made their choice do you think there trying to draft the wrong QB? Let’s try and be supportive and give Mcbean the benefit of the doubt. This new regime
has been done a lot more right then wrong.
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8 minutes ago, Lurker said:
They see Cam. Big Ben is much more of a pocket passer than Allen...
Lurker I see a Big Ben type QB but with better mobility outside of the pocket. Just my opinion. You could be right though.
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Ok well I will weigh In. I posted many times over the weeks that my preferred order of QB’s was Allen, Mayfield, Rudolph and Jackson. In the last 48 hours I came around on Rosen. So bottom line is the Bills traded up, first with Denver who cancelled the trade when Chubb was still there. Then with Tampa. The Bills had their choice of both Josh’s and chose Allen. Case closed the Bills traded up and they got their preferred QB. It was rumored that the Bills would only trade up for one QB. So I’m guessing they would have traded all the way to 2 with NYG or 4 with the Browns to get Allen. So we all need to get on board and support this guy. This guy has the highest ceiling In the draft for QB’s. So Time will tell, I see a lot of greatness in this kid. His arm talent is generational. So let’s see I think we have a Big Ben type QB that can move out of the pocket. Welcome To buffalo and to Bills Mafia.
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2 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said:
Horrible theory and it is laughable.
you will not be laughing if it happens
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2 hours ago, gobills1212 said:
I tried that once.
You spazzed and blocked me.
Guess that was all talk.
Troll on!
Not true I have never blocked anyone on this forum.
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Just now, MJS said:
You can tell me not to make threads if you want. I won't mind.
By the way, I don't make threads ever. I post my opinions in the countless threads that already exist about every single topic imaginable.
Great I’m glad you do. Try and be nice when you do it. This will brighten your day
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Ok game on, I’m listeing to the show on NFL network moving the Chains with Pat Kirwin and Jim Miller, they just reported the the Browns are looking to trade the 4th pick. This was reported at 3:07pm
may the start of there show. By the way I love Pat Kirwin I be listeing to him on XM satellite during the draft. Him and Gil Brandt and Jim Miller. It will be a great combo to listen too when the draft takes place tomorrow.
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4 minutes ago, MJS said:
That was a bunch of nonsense. You need to stop creating threads.
MJS I would never tell you to not make a thread. No need to post that. Trying being nice for once in awhile. How about saying I hope you enjoy the draft thurman.
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2 hours ago, gobills1212 said:
How is this idiot still allowed to create threads??
My God this is bad..
Are you a hateful person?. Why so hostile. How about saying hey thurm I do not agree with you. But let’s have a good draft and see what happens.
1 hour ago, H2o said:This is no worse than people who say we already have a deal in place with Cleveland to move up to #4 because we got #65 for Tyrod.
exactly
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1 minute ago, K-9 said:
Athelte Maga is a soccer player from Senegal. He's gonna set the World Cup on fire this year, too.
well I say good for him. Hope he does great.
Things Allen does better then or as good as Brady, Farve, Rogers& Marino
in The Stadium Wall Archives
Posted · Edited by Thurmanator 12074
So you did not watch the video because they are not highlights. That’s fine keep your self in the dark about are QB.