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    Gil Brandt's Hot 150 Prospects for the 2018 Draft

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted

    3 hours ago, horned dogs said:

    If we trade up for Allen over the others this board will melt down!

    man I’m looking forward to the epic melt down. I’ve  got my pop corn ready. 

    2 hours ago, Boatdrinks said:

    Sounds about right for Rudolph. Except Thurmanator has the Bills taking him at 12 if Rosen slides out of top ten lol 

    That is correct. if the bills draft 12th and it’s a choice between Rudolph and Rosen the Bills will take Rudolph. Bank on it. 

    Prediction Rudolph will go before Rosen if the Bills are selecting a QB at 12

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted

    3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

     

    You lie because you say you're not political but I have seen several political rants by you....including this thread.

    You've created several anti-Rosen threads and posts and you say you don't.

    You're an absolute liar.

    I try to not make it political but you guys will not let it go. You want it to be about politics. I would not want Rosen if he wore a F-Hillary hat. I think what Rosen is doing in the media is dividing the locker with his politics and social justice stances. Why should players that feel different about his causes get behind him to play for him or fans for that matter. No I want a QB like Allen and Rudolph that does not divide people. We don’t need drama as the face of our franchise. We need a leader that is also good at bringing people together and not dividing people based on politics. So I would really like to just draft a guy who does not have this baggage. You feel differently and I respect that. Glad you like him. He has talent and might do well I just like the other QB’s that have talent and don’t do the stuff he does.    

    Prediction Rudolph will go before Rosen if the Bills are selecting a QB at 12

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted

    2 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

     

    It's not that I agree or disagree.  It's that you're projecting your value judgement on the Bills, which is complete bull ****.

     

    You say you don't like him, fine.  You say the Bills won't take him because you don't like him, you're a total fool.

    well it’s how I felt and how the bills talk about the process. Having Rosen on the team will break the process. He does not fit into it. Yes he’s got talent 

    But if truth be told I think the Bills Covet Darnold and Allen over him. So I have a right to say what I think the process is to me and how the Bills project that in the media. I respect you don’t feel that way about the process and that Rosen fits into it for you. So good for you I have no problem with your opinion 

    Prediction Rudolph will go before Rosen if the Bills are selecting a QB at 12

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted · Edited by Thurmanator 12074

    2 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

     

    Why do you think the Bills don't want Rosen.

     

    We know why YOU don't want Rosen.  Why don't the Bills?

    Because he divides the locker room, he is not a good fit because of his Social Justice Warrior 

    mentality. It’s my opinion I have no problem with you not agreeing, so will see what happens. 

    Prediction Rudolph will go before Rosen if the Bills are selecting a QB at 12

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted

    Just now, Royale with Cheese said:

     

    Yes we know.  You tell us every time you can.

    It's only because of his politics.

    Well not really but you can keep running with that. 

    I don’t like my QB’s being Social Justice Warriors 

    and dividing the locker room. So to me he does not fit into the process. It’s my opinion I know you don’t agree with it and that’s ok.   

    Prediction Rudolph will go before Rosen if the Bills are selecting a QB at 12

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted

    2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

     

    How are you not getting this?

    You specifically stated in the Allen thread it's sealed, he will go #1.  That's a prediction.  

    Then just above, you think Darnold goes #1.  That's a prediction.

    This is so simple.

    I think Cleveland is having a hard time deciding if it’s Allen or Darnold. I’m hoping it’s Darnold so we can get Allen. But I’ve said in the past I thought Allen would go number 1. So will see things change as more info comes out and things like that. I’m pretty sure you know where I stand. 

     

    I don’t like Rosen at all, I would prefer the Bills 

    get 1 of these QB’s in this order this is my 

    order not the Bills 

     

    Allen 

    Mayfield 

    Rudolph 

    Jackson. 

     

    I said I think the bills order is this 

     

    Darnold 

    Allen 

    Rudolph 

    Jackson. 

    Prediction Rudolph will go before Rosen if the Bills are selecting a QB at 12

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted

    2 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said:

     

    Twice earlier you said he fits their culture.

    Sorry I used the word "feelings"

    Again, is Rosen or Mayfield are available at #12 they aren't going to pass for a  guy with clearly inferior talent like Rudolph.

    It's just not going to happen.

    As I said, they might decide to keep the picks and roll the dice with whoever falls to them, but it won't be any of the top4 at #12.

    If they do that, they basically tied their hands to take Rudolph or Jackson at #12 because another team will reach and take him before #22 due to the importance of the position.

    If the Bills target is Darnold then Rudolph and they lose out in Darnold they will stay at 12 and take Rudolph. The Bills will then use the rest of there picks. I think and have a feeling the Bills covet Darnold, Allen and Rudolph in that order. So will see, it’s just my opinion from what I hear from our GM and coach in the media. 

    Prediction Rudolph will go before Rosen if the Bills are selecting a QB at 12

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted

    Just now, Royale with Cheese said:

     

    No...you said it was sealed.  When it's sealed, it's done.  Both this thread and the last one are what you will think will happen.

    You shouldn't continue to post if you continue to lie.

    Yes it’s sealed I was thinking that is what will happen he will go number 1 to the browns. 

    Coukd I be wrong sure I can. What I want to happen is Allen to the Bills at 6 with a trade up with the colts. So who cares,  I did not know your the collector of all things that are sealed. 

    Prediction Rudolph will go before Rosen if the Bills are selecting a QB at 12

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted · Edited by Thurmanator 12074

    9 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

     

    Well here's you saying it's sealed that Allen goes #1.

     

     

    Well it’s rumored that Cleveland will take him with the 1st pick in the daft. That was what I thought would happen. What I’m hoping for or would like to see happen is the Bills get one of these 4 QB’s. 

    So what I think will happen and what I want to see are 2 different things. Am I ok to still post royal cheese ? , Do I have your permission. 

     

    Allen 

    Mayfield 

    Rudolph 

    Jackson. 

    Prediction Rudolph will go before Rosen if the Bills are selecting a QB at 12

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted

    1 hour ago, NewEraBills said:

     

    This is an emotional response that is only looking at this from the perspective of talent.   Of course talent wise you don't pass on Mayfield or Rosen for those guys.  I'd be lunacy.  But I don't think Beane and McD are simply looking for talent.  They are looking for talent + a guy that represents what they are building culture wise, that's why I think Darnold and Allen are their top two guys.

     

    I'm all for Rosen, Mayfield.  Those are my top two QBs.  I just don't think Beane and McD see those guys as representative of what they are trying to build.  I want to be wrong on this but look at some of the things that Mayfield says in interviews, that Rosen says in interviews, then look at what Rudolph, Darnold, Allen, Falk says.  What people say is indicative of who they are and what they represent.  Football wise you don't take Rudolph or Falk before Mayfield or Rosen you just don't, but when you start talking about personalities and fits that's where things change in terms of the culture they are building.  Beane and McD are not just drafting a football player.  They are drafting that plus a guy that can represent the culture. 

     

    Like I said, I hope their time with Mayfield and Rosen truthfully showed them that these are guys that fit what they are building, but as we get closer to the draft there's just too much going on around these guys to make me believe that they are the models that Beane and McD want representing the Bills.

    could not agree more. Rudolph is there perfect QB for there process at 12 and they get to keep all of there picks. He has Size, Arm, 4 year career, media savvy, great stats, Good citizen, he checks all the boxes. Let’s say Browns, NYG and Den will not trade out. Bills are probably looking at Mayfield Allen, Rudolph or Jackson. Allen is my favorite but I will be super happy with Rudolph or Jackson. Any of these 3 could end up being the best QB’s in this draft class I know the Dolphins want Mayfield bad watch out for them. 

     

    This is what I think will happen

     

    Browns - Darnold

    NYG - Barkley 

    Jets - Rosen

    clev- Chubb

    Den -  DB or Guard or QB Allen. 

    Colts ? trade out or pick 

     

    Bills will need to move up to get Allen or Mayfield 

    so will see what happens. I think the Dolphins and Cards will try and move up into slots 6-10 so we better be ready. 

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