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26 is the shiznit.

Great at his job but a niche job. Compared to Rickey? No way.

I’m not a big fan of closers in general but Sutter is 100% toward the top of the closer list. To me, the biggest joke in recent history was breaking the tradition of no one getting 100% with Rivera. Does Rivera deserve HOF? You’d have to be crazy to even blink. Is the lack of ever having a unanimous entry silly? Probably, yes. But, given both of the above, was Rivera the right guy to break that glass ceiling? Not even close. Because he was a Yankee? If he had the same career as an Oriole, Ranger, or Marlin he gets in first ballot but doesn’t sniff 100%. Willie Mays, Ted Williams, Cobb, Ruth, Aaron, not 100% but Rivera? Shirley. More recently you could make a strong case that the following deserved a higher % than Rivera: Ripken, Gwynn, definitely Rickey, Maddux, Griffey, Jeter.

Rolen did his job exceedingly well. No, it’s not all about stats but it can’t be about glitz and glamour either. It’s one thing if stats are borderline. When considering O and D, Rolen is not borderline….he’s in. Should Oscar Gamble be in due to famous hair? It has to at least be somewhat about stats. Molina to me was one of the top five or so defensive catchers I’ve seen. I think that means a lot so I would vote for him. I’m not sure how WAR is measured but his is low. That to me is more of an indictment of WAR’s defensive measurements because I know what my eyes see at least to some extent. I still consider Pudge the best defending catcher I’ve ever seen not just with skills but with managing staffs, but Melina’s management of pitchers is also elite.

I was comparing their level of fame, I do agree that Arenado has a good chance of surpassing Rolen but he hasn’t yet. He has a career WAR in the 50s. Rolen is 70.1 and ranks ahead of: Raines Gwynn Smoltz Eddie Murray Pudge Rodriguez Jim Palmer Kenny Lofton Edgar Martinez Ernie Banks Pee Wee Reese Sandberg Roberto Alomar Miggy Cabrera The above list leaves me doubting WAR a little as there are some true great on that list IMO and definitely guys I consider ahead of Rolen, but still, it is an indicator that he fits.

Rosen was very strong both offensively and defensively. Maybe he wasn’t flashy but his career WAR says HOF. Nolan Arenado is a current player that will have his HOF detractors in a similar way.

Any updates on this?

The Dallas goal that tied it at 2 shows how dangerous they are. Holding them to 2 is terrific.

Anderson was there when he needed to be last night. That was a big win on the road against the leader of the west. Ukka Pukka Sambuca has been playing well overall and that has made a big difference.

Your hype picture was better:

Agree the Bills won’t take him but D’Andre Swift is more than enough.

Why? The sands will just shift again.

I get that words like “if” may be hard for you to follow. I’ll try to use simpler stuff moving forward.

I stopped reading there because what you quoted me as saying is a fabrication. I’m not sure why you feel the need to lie. I don’t think this is an argument either of us will “win” until next year, even though we have different thoughts on what SF may do. If you are so desperate to win it that you have to put quotes around something I did not type and attribute it to me, then I guess you can consider yourself a winner. Still you can’t win them all so be careful, I remember earlier this season when you said “Davis Mills will lead the Texans to an undefeated season in 2022”. That was wrong*** *** I realize you never typed that, but if the rules of this thread include making up crap I just figured I’d join in.

That’s not the argument I made and I’m not assuming he will throw six picks. You flat out stated Lance was overdrafted. Maybe, but the jury is certainly out despite your uninformed confidence and declaration of finality. I do think there is a chance that Purdy has a rough week given the weaker teams he has faced thus far, SF’s D taking pressure off and the fact that the Dallas D can present some challenges. I think SF is the better team and has better coaching, but that Dallas and then presumably the Philly D will be much tougher than the parade of hot messes he has seen thus far. Read his scouting report and tell me what you have seen to discredit any of his projected weaknesses. He hasn’t had to do any of those things because SF has so many options. Good for him, but everyone gets their weaknesses tested eventually. https://www.nfl.com/prospects/brock-purdy/32005055-5224-3289-b108-8aab5e23b748 At this point I don’t see SF needing to “sit” either Purdy or Lance at the outset of 2023. That’s what camp is for. There is no reason for them to simply jettison either. Jimmy’s contract is up….I believe……but if it weren’t, the discussion might involve all three. If the season stopped today SF would likely go into camp and give both QBs an opportunity and that is what I would do. The season doesn’t stop today for them so the reaming games could sway that I suppose. I think the odds of it being fully determined are low.

Your conclusion that they overdrafted is based on an insufficient sample size of games…….1…….and I assume you have not been in attendance at SF practices. Correct me if I’m wrong about that. Also let me know if any high draft picks have ever taken longer than one start to develop. If he had been drafted in round 3 and was named starter, then got hurt, I’d think they would be reluctant to dump him then too. My guess is that if Purdy throws 6 horrible picks this week and SF loses, then he will still have some sort of chance in camp next year based on his success the last few weeks. If SF goes on to win the SB, it will likely be inclined to keep him in his role as starter…..but even that isn’t some sort of proof that Lance is a bust. That’s just dumb. SF, of all teams, seems to require the least from their QB of any of the league’s true contenders. That factors in as well. IMO any speculation at this point about the 9ers 2023 depth chart is guesswork. You seem to think you have it figured out based on one game from Lance and a few games from Purdy against pretty weak competition. That’s ok. You do you.

We’ll find out when we find out, but assuming they’ll simply dump a #3 overall after essentially one game seems unlikely to be a simple decision. I’m not diminishing Purdy’s play, but assuming he is solidified as a proven commodity after a few games against mostly bad teams is premature. He could be Tom Brady or Scott Mitchell but is very likely somewhere in between.

Why did Lance start week 1 2022? If Purdy had outperformed both Lance and Jimmy in camp, would he have started? Maybe not because….rookie, but if Lance outperforms Purdy in 2023 camp are you saying Purdy will get deferential treatment? Shirley. Purdy is their QB “at this point” because the other options are hurt. Jimmy is likely gone via FA. Personally I think a camp battle is the most likely scenario with the 9ers next year but it is possible one enters as preferred. Their roster is strong and helps any QB but they haven’t exactly played a tough schedule since Purdy got thrust into action. Fish, Bucs, Seahawks x2, Wash, LV, Ariz. Dallas’ D can test Purdy as can Philly’s. If he holds up there the story could change but right now he has zero hold in the 2023 job.

To make a definitive statement that Lance is the third best QB on that roster is absurd. It’s akin to calling Mike White the best QB of the 2018 draft class…..as he himself did…..after his first game in 2021. There is a concept called sample size that you may want to research. Of the 3, only Jimmy has enough sample size to make any judgements at all.

He was a rookie in 2021. In 2022, he didn’t get the call “when Jimmy G went down”, he was the starter. He had one game in a typhoon, then went 2/3 for 30 yards and broke his leg.

Shirley

Congrats to them on meeting their lifelong desire to be douche bags.

In public and rubbing it in the faces of the rest of the world? Doubtful most non-douche bag people do that. Most people are mature enough to not even do it in private but not these losers. Those fish are all grade A douche bags, thus the lingering desperate cries for attention.. The solution to this is once another team goes undefeated, they line up the following weekend against these 80 year olds and let the chips fall where they may to see who gets the greatest team ever title. I’d pay to see it.

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