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Maybe there were no altars around.

Call it a crusade all you want but the truth is the truth. Luck was good, but was deemed infallible. There was a gap there. The UFO/alien thing has similarities but the "gap" is wider because aliens don't exist and the "U" in UFO is only a U for some. Some are military, some are imagined, some are fake....lots of things. None are alien.

From before his NFL career even started, Andrew Luck's upside was to equal the expectations set for him. That is because he arrived at a time when the 24/7 media hyperbole was also arriving. The bar was set so high that there was no way for anyone to overachieve. This was, of course, ridiculous. Luck had had a strong college career and displayed many positive attributes. Genetic concerns, his father was absolutely horrible at being a QB, were ignored. The media train rolled, picking up steam at every imaginable point. Luck had the personality that most would value in a friend but lacked the borderline narcissism often displayed by the prototype sports hero. Nobody noticed. The narrative was in place. Early in his NFL career it was clear that his skill set would produce in fits and starts but that he also lacked killer instinct. The Colts, having been a powerhouse just a year before he arrived, were also in the worst division in the history of professional sports. When Luck sputtered, the Colts were to blame, when he excelled, it was all him. None of this crap came from Luck himself, it all came from the media. Luck himself never threw anyone under any bus. This narrative held for his whole career. Easy plays were missed but that got ignored. Other teams choked away big leads which were deemed Luck orchestrated comebacks. Horrible defenses were able to completely shut him down at times. None of that mattered. Narrative. Most fans bought this crap and still do. Grigson, Irsay, blah, blah, blah. Narratives are wrong all the time but they never go away. We all see it first hand with Josh Allen. Maybe Allen will be great, maybe he won't, but "accuracy" will still be discussed even if he wins 1000 games in a row. Sometimes these narratives prove correct and sometimes they don't but they never go away. People still wonder about a Manziel comeback for Pete's sake. Luck was deemed the next Gretzky/Jordan/etc.. His career should have resembled Tim Raines. Hype at the beginning, some moderate struggles, tenacity that helped build it, and ultimately HOF success but not the stuff of legends. Instead we were told he was the equal of the all time greats and we were supposed to buy it. Many did. I can't speak to the psychology of what drove Luck's retirement. I'm sure he was honest about the injuries but wonder if that was the whole story. Living up to an impossible narrative that he didn't create and probably didn't want, couldn't have helped.

Lol now he's Michael Jordan? What if he came back in three days? Should we start referring to August 24 as Good Saturday? The legend of Kim Jung QB must only grow in his absence.

Reach

Friggin giant eyeballs

Lol in his last game the Chiefs defense totally shut him down. Super Bowl?

I hope he is a better trainer than he was a pitcher.

Not really

Played great before Rex Play diminished during and after Rex. Do you actually feel the above is proof that he lost his passion before Rex arrived?

False

I thought it was too soon for a "see I told you so". The time will arrive for that but my comments will be less about Luck and more about people blindly following the herd.

Literally stolen from Arrested Development. Will it work? Shirley.

They have Fuller V; maybe they want Sills V.

Season 2 was good but why did Wayne Williams talk like Tim Meadows' ladies man?

Never in any of these threads have I said Andrew Luck was a bad dude in any way. Contrary to what some may think, I have always liked him. I feel really bad for him having to retire. He pretty much said he has lost the love of the game. He isn't the first and won't be the last. He deserves a lot of credit for not milking paychecks which he clearly could have done. He said his love waned as he continuously battled injuries. I have no doubt that was part of it. The lifelong grooming and overblown expectations couldn't have helped either. He will probably do very well in some profession whether inside football or not.

Ever heard of a bag?

If we strip any of those 9 we won't be able to unsee it.

That kid is tremendous. I doubt the laziness surrounding this team the last few years will suck the life out of his game like it has done to most of the roster.

There are these things called fingerprints.

That was the song about the Kennedy assasination.

There you go.

It's sad that people spit on graves before the occupant even arrives.

It was also very obviously false and made incomprehensible leaps in logic. Q has also been called "news" and also made incomprehensible leaps in logic. You mocked one and felt the other was credible enough to entitle your thread the way you chose. Look, it's totally fine to dislike Trump and get disappointed that Katy Perry's favorite candidate lost. We should all support each other's right to choose what we choose when it comes to politics. One doesn't need to explain the reasons behind any such decision. If they do, the reasons needn't be good or logical. If I vote for Trump because I like his hair or the absurd length of his ties, that is ultimately my right even if it deserves mockery. We should also own our mistakes. In the early part of this thread you argued for pages about the word "hacking" which you were wrong about. Trump also used the word and he was also wrong. At least own that. You're a smart dude without question. It's also clear that you think others are dumb. Spoiler alert:. Lots aren't.

The original point of the thread is for a little goofy speculation and specifically asked for people who haven't been mentioned. You have mentioned Trump over and over again in other threads. It also said no one from the black book. And you mentioned the black book.