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Badol I think put it best with his cotton comment. The NCAA has been stealing money for years. I think Bill is also correct calling this anarchy even if I disagree that players on balance will experience a degradation in play. It may be for some, but others may get a taste for the money and work even harder for the big NFL bucks. A wash? The difficulty here is that the NCAA thieves are completely inexperienced in creating or maintaining a system based on fairness rather than thievery. Maybe they can fix it but if they do there will be a lot of turmoil which is only beginning now. Let’s face it, if they basically swept a decade of child rape under the rug so that the Penn State dollars could keep flowing, they will only fix the transfer portal, NIL, etc. if they can measure the loss of money. They can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube and they don’t really know how to create a new tube yet.

I think we can all see that the defense is just young and will eventually tighten up. You’re right. It’s the goalies. 9-2 was enough to be confident in Ukka Puka Sambuca holding it……. but barely.

I’m pretty sure Poyer will use that repeatedly when talking with Allen.

I see Herbert in roughly the same position in most lists like this but every week he and his coach do something stupid to lose a game. At what point does that stop being ignored as if it were the exception? I see the raw talent but he’s as dumb as a box of rocks. Hurts, when I watch, seems to consistently avoid dumb mistakes. Personally I’d move him up. I agree with others moving Stafford down based on age/health. Does Tua fit in your “after that” group? I’d guess that Lawrence will get there and Watson will re-emerge at some point.

Aliens don’t exist.

And do you only remember 10 Aaron Judge HRs this year so he is a Punch and Judy hitter now?

That’s true. A big thing in Orchard Park NY for sure

No Tennessee? It’s not even possible they could end up ranked higher than a team with whom they share a conference and a W/L record and that they defeated? It’s not even in the realm of possibility? The fact that odds even exist on Bama but not on Tenn shows how unimaginably tilted this whole thing has become.

Finally we agree on at least one thing. The best a garbage basement conference can produce is a player like Gabe Davis. I like Gabe and all but in the very same draft Bama alone produced superstar Jerry Jeudy and would be superstar if he hadn’t burned someone alive Henry Ruggs. The difference is mind blowing.

Neither. I’d just continue to find it sad that a sport had been yet again co-opted by the narrative and the dollar. I know schools like Tenn make plenty of $$$$ on football but when even big programs like that can’t get a fair shot because Bama, it shows how truly pathetic things have become.

Tenn beat Bama. Bama has two losses and almost 3 more. If they get in over Tenn it is a farce of epic proportions

Why is Bama ranked above Tennessee? I’m interested in the “logic” when you can’t sarcastically insult ever non-SEC league in the country. How does one “justify” Bama being ahead of Tennessee?

They will completely abandon the team with one more year of this and only return when they win again. You’ll never get to watch them suffer for a long time because they are….most of them….not actual football fans.

I’m sensing sarcasm. That’s what USC gets for not playing strong teams like Austin Peay. TCU down at half. Congrats on Bama’s playoff spot. Even if the frogs come back you just can’t justify putting them ahead of the Tide. I mean TCU will have almost lost a game and Bama only almost lost four. Fair is fair. Roll tide.

Unless it’s Bama

Lol if TCU wins a close one or loses…..bye bye….if not, OSU magically out. One Tenn loss was to Georgia, who is number 1 and wasn’t on Bama’s schedule. The other was a bad loss. Bama lost to Tennessee. If being a close loss helps why don’t the close wins to A&M Ole Miss and Longhorns hurt? I get the Austin Peay blowout has to go on the plus side. It was incredibly awesome. Reminds me of the comeback against The Citadel a few years back. Scintillating

Bama and Tenn both have 2 losses. Both in SEC…..Tenn beat Bama….Bama ranked higher. Seems legit.

Shocked

Math, math, math......and not even all of it....

Andrew Luck apology number 3,264,927,141

Anybody got any insight on BOJ, JBO, JOB? Niagara leaked two and I added one. There are still 3 out there.

He might have a big game but will he learn to spell basic words?

I agree but I think the media portion of point 2 above needs to have some perspective to it, and unfortunately that seems to be lacking more often than not in 2022 media of all stripes. I agree with most of this. A problem I see is that even mild responses like “uncool dude” when multiplied by millions of people saying it, can be harmful. I don’t have a solution, just an observation. It’s also what you sign up for when you are a celebrity and put something out there on Twitter, but we’re all just people at the end of the day and receiving a million dislikes or whatever probably isn’t fun.

We 100% agree that there are things that need to be called out and things that need to be shrugged off. I think our primary disagreement is about where the line is drawn. It will always be that way between any two individuals I suppose. The jaw breaking people you describe obviously have issues that were not caused by Lamar. I do agree that they can be influenced by things they see/hear/read. I’d be hard pressed to believe that this individual tweet by Lamar would turn them from non-violent bigots into jaw breakers. The secondary part of where I see a difference is that the degree of calling out has changed quite drastically with social media. Many people have become pariahs for life. Some may have deserved it, some may not have deserved it at all and some lie somewhere in between. How many sentences has Jackson or any of us uttered in his life? Does he deserve a Twitter storm of derision which will live online forever for one stupid sentence? Just a few years ago Jackson would have never known this guy said anything, so he would not have responded. At that time, if someone said this to his face, he may have verbalized the same thing he wrote Sunday. It wouldn’t have made it right, but the few people who heard may have thought “wow, what a jerk”. Nowadays, “calling him out” means unleashing millions of online critics who simply must have the same opinion as everyone else. Jackson should know this before he types on Twitter. That said, being swarmed by millions of people for “saying something offensive” is not natural and is unique to our current technological status. There are millions of more things to “hear” and to be offended by. IMO this brings with it a need ignore more things. To be offended and call out all things offensive can easily become a full time job that does nothing for anyone.

I agree that certain things need to be called out. I agree I don’t get to decide when others are offended. Neither do you though. Your statement “What Lamar said was offensive” is true for you and likely many others. Do you get to decide if all gay people are offended? If they are not offended are they no longer truly gay? Is there a list of demands to which they must adhere? It is my strong opinion that there is a line where something needs to be written off rather than called out. I don’t pretend to know where that line resides. To take it to an extreme, I think it would be counterproductive to have protests in the streets over The Rolling Stones singer being called Mick because it offended Irish people. It would also be counterproductive to ignore someone calling for segregation based on race/creed/sexual orientation/whatever. Somewhere there is a point where being offended is detrimental to one’s self esteem. That point is likely different for different people which complicates things but nobody should expect the world to be a simple place. Losing individuality based on membership in a group……whether that group is oppressed, oppressive or neither…..to me is a very high cost and we have to be cognizant of it at all times. If a gay individual is offended by what Lamar said, then they are offended and can act individually as they see fit. If another gay individual is not offended, they should not be compelled to see things the same way as they other person. Insufficient calling out has led to atrocities throughout history. Too much calling out can and has led to desensitizing people to real dangers. IMO it also at times can show an underlying lack of respect for an oppressed group. Too many people think that groups of others somehow need their help. It is one thing to treat an individual with care and respect based on their circumstances and quite another to assume an entire group of people need to be helped/defended/etc.