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The optimist in me thinks that whoever’s making decisions know that there are likely a lot more infected people out there and pushing out the re-opening dates is timed to when they project to be much closer to herd status. Even if it is 25% higher, then NYC is pretty close to having herd immunity. Thats the optimistic take I’ve got. Edit: 25x higher not 25% higher.

Yes yes. I’m done with that idiot President. It’s lunchtime and I’m out of bread, so I’m just going to ***** directly into my hand now and eat it. The Michigan Governor says that’s the way to go!

No no, I’m a “little guy”. That Chase employee is screwing me because I’m not a connected fat cat. Ergo, he’s a Republican. Duh!

If I’m one of the “two posters above who couldn’t get a biz loan” that you’re referring to, then you’ve grossly misrepresented my post. I blamed a moron who works for Chase Bank. Not a “dem”. Try to be honest, or try to figure out what you’re reading and commenting upon.

At least you got to talk with a human wrt your Credit Union. With Chase, I did get a human, but he’s like the low man at the car dealership. Can’t talk to anyone else. I chose snafu for my screen name based upon personal experience. Good luck to you, too, Len. The money isn’t desperate by any stretch, but I’m only speaking for me, not my staff — who may feel different and who are relying on me. Experts barely understand this virus and how to treat it. Gotta give them a bit more time. That’s my view. And by “a bit” I mean not a lot. Now is treatment focused, as far as I’d do things. Open up slowly to keep hospitalizations and the R-factor down.

Some junior underwriter at Chase can’t read and royally fukked our application two days ago. I had everything submitted on that first Sunday, the 5th. Eventually some moron at the bank will see things my way, but the money is run out.

That was the Mike Bloomberg Mayoralty for 12 years. That plus stop and frisk.

I’m wondering if judges are writing orders during this down time to cut into the thick backlog that exists. If so, will they issue all these backed up orders June 1 (or whenever)? That’s going to be a nightmare. Lots of appeals filed at the same time. Lots of motions to reargue. On top of that, there’s probably a ton of complaints just idling on lawyers’ desks right now. They’re all going to get pushed into the system at the same time. And the Summer months are usually the quiet months.

Everyone’s quarantined. There’s nobody around to deliver the “necessary paperwork”.

I would be a helluva lot easier to agree with you if this virus expresses itself differently — like turning your thumb pink. But based on the facts we have at hand, social distancing has helped and it has helped in areas that haven’t been hard hit (I’d wager). The plan was to limit the spread until treatments can catch up with demand. It was to limit the spread until enough PPE was gathered to assist caregivers. We’ve seen “one” case turn into many fatalities in several communities. Travel and commerce are too prevalent to stop the spread without these measures. I don’t agree that disparity was too severe if there wasn’t enough testing going on while this virus was brewing among communities. Could there have been a regional response? Perhaps, but we still would have needed a lot of testing and tracing contacts. That’s probably more intrusive to personal rights. The Bill of Rights is based upon morality and inalienable rights and, yes, there are times when one right is subsumed for another. I don’t believe that we always can get the whole schmear all the time. With regards to the “voluntary” nature of asserting or waiving ones’s rights, that happenes all the time. Not everyone has the right to assemble in violation of health, building department, and fire codes. That’s just one simple example. I do agree that some governors have used heavier hands than others. And they will be challenged, like today in Michigan. And the point where I do agree with you most is that there is a slippery slope element to this. We, as a country, practiced social distancing back during the Spanish Flu in 1918. Those measures were obviously relaxed when the need passed. We must make sure that these measures remain temporary. All I can say is that this is and should remain temporary; that people shouldn’t give up their rights to object once the need abates; that until then we should comply up to the limit of the government’s intrusion. ?

The government can abridge rights if their actions are not arbitrary or capricious, and are limited in scope. I don’t think there would be a successful challenge based on the current circumstances. At least not in NY — even considering the fact that downstate is vastly different than WNY and other parts.

The models may have been horribly right if it weren’t for social distancing policies and school shutdowns, etc. There are moral imperatives that clash with individual rights. Temporarily (and voluntarily) suspending one’s rights during an epidemic isn’t the worst thing in the world. Making sure it is temporary is what’s most important. If our government is going to manufacture health crises in order to trample our rights, then we’ve got bigger problems. Maybe my viewpoint is skewed because I’m downstate. Believe me, there’s no bigger Bill of Rights supporter than I am. Also, nobody wants this govenrnment shutdown and intentional recession to end as much as me. However, I’m not going to be the guy who’s infecting others. I’m relying on my neighbors to feel the same way.

What’s the point of Birx and Trump’s team of inflating the numbers? If I’ve got heart disease and I was probably going to die two months from now — but I catch this virus and die today, then what? Why care if I die “with” or “from”? How do you even suss that out? The virus causes, or helps to cause, much more death than is remotely normal. It is highly contagious. The vast majority of the population has no immunity to it. Many people spread it even though they don’t know they are infected. Aren’t these the real takeaways? You’re hung up on “with” vs. “from” and I can’t understand why.

I agree. But he ran in the primaries as the new path for Democrats — and picked up at least a third of the party — and then abandoned his principles. Everyone sees Biden for what he is. Bernie could have hammered away and had more clout. He gave up. He’s not who his supporters thought he would be.

Yes, I daresay that Bernie Sanders doesn’t care about what Republicans think. He’s not a cross-the-aisle kind of guy. He never spoke to or sought out Republican voters during either of his two Presidential runs. He spoke about fundamentally changing our country’s system of government and our economy and healt care system. He had enough backing to get to the convention and see his message through, and to get traction for the future of “democratic socialism”.

Someone had better start the messaging that we’re all going to see a second “spike” in cases some time after re-opening the economy. To me, it’s a given.

He’s not a Democrat. Never was until after he sold out four years ago. That’s the “sellout” part. If he were a true believer in his own self-declared revolution then he wouldn’t care what Republicans think. That’s the “pu$$y” part. Edit: the “leverage” part wouldn’t involve infighting. It would result in a gain for Bernie and his wing.

He will never see the fruit of his labor — and he doesn’t strike me as a guy who was going for a legacy. The Dem party rejected him four years ago. They may have promised him a move to the left this time around, but that clearly didn’t happen. When he was running strong with 1/3 of the primary votes, they cut the floor out from under him. That was blatant and obvious. Then the pandemic hit and his only remaining opponent went into his basement and serially babbled and bumbled his thoughts. The pragmatic thing to do would have been to stick it out. His very strong base was still with him. At the very least, he easily could have leveraged his clout at the convention. Now, for the second time, he’s walked away from the revolution he touted.

Bernie could have blown up the convention this time around if he wanted to, and he would have had the credibility to do so, but he wimped out a second time. He had the chance to make his ultra progressive platform *the* standard of the D party going into the future, but either (a) he’s too sold out to do so, or (b) too lazy and weak, (c) doesn’t see his own “revolution” as having any future success. I think it is all three. He obviously hasn’t looked into the future as an old idealogue because he hasn’t really propped up a likely successor to his movement, and he hasn’t ever tried to make a viable third party. That’s something he should have done 4 years ago. Someone not named Sanders will emerge and be more forceful. As to the bolded — Delaney. Only nobody listens to the guy.

Bernie Sanders is a sellout pu$$y.

Perhaps you’re right, maybe he was being optimistic. I daresay he wasn’t the only one who screwed up early by downplaying this virus. I think that’s got a lot to do with China and the WHO. Not exclusively, mind you. In contrast to Trump, I only have the NYC mayor and NYS Governor to go by, and their actions and messaging show that they were of the same mind early on. And it doesn’t discount that he’s apparently listened to his staff since then - just like they did. I don’t think party affiliation has anything to do with the facts that were presented to anyone with decision making authority early in this nightmare. I, for one, am not going to play the blame game regarding any decisions made. I think some went too far and I think some went not far enough. Nobody was prepared for this virus. I agree that Trump is not and never was a good messenger. Nobody at all helps him with his messaging. If people can’t get that point by now, that’s not his problem.

I’m not one for change — at least not the drastic change that this social distancing has brought on. And I’ll speak for all my kids that they’re going 100% nuts by not being in school and socializing. People need face to face interaction — even simple interactions like grocery shopping and commenting to a total stranger about the quality of the produce that day. We can and will open up as a society without tracking and tracing. It will take awhile and require people to be diligent and honest. Maybe that’s a pipe dream, but it is what I’d greatly prefer to go with. Happy Easter! CNN is the video version of the NYT.

Warren misconception—not Native American.

How does she know Trumps wearing a bathrobe when he tweets at 4AM.

Biden says 17 intelligence agencies @Deranged Rhino Triggered?