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What supporting memo are you referring to? Sullivan’s minutes he issued today? Was there a different order? If it was the minutes, it seems as though he dismissed an amicus request because it is premature (because he’s going to issue a scheduling order). And it looks like he dismissed the Defense’s opposition to the amicus request, because it became moot (because he denied the amicus request). If there was some other order, it isn’t something I’ve seen.

More interesting is the one blacked out, just above Biden. Who’s more important than the VP (who’s name wasn’t blacked out)? To me, that can only be one person.

The political winds were pretty much set. He pled guilty in December, 2018. Then, the judge kept stalling the actual sentencing date because the government didn’t supply to the defense all potential exculpatory evidence. Why? Maybe the judge didn’t like the plea at the time it was made. From what I recall, it sure seemed that way. Sullivan made a big show about Flynn’s plea. After that, he let the defense pick at loose thread after loose thread and held the government’s feet to the fire to show up with what they were fighting to withhold. Finally, what appears to be true exculpatory evidence came out — after Barr had to appoint a third party prosecutor to review what the heck was going on. This led to two things: (1) a defense motion to withdraw the plea and dismiss the charge — which is pending. That motion also details the fact that Flynn’s prior counsel had a conflict of interest issue regarding possible FARA charges and they pushed hard for him to plead, and (2) Barr’s DOJ dropping the charges. Courts DO undo guilty pleas. It is up to the judge and in this case, it looks like a 50/50 thing, even in light of Sullivan’s strange order yesterday. I can’t figure out why he gives a rats ass about amicus briefs. He’s no novice, he can make a decision based on what’s in front of him.

Two Supreme Court cases being argued today, originating from Washington State and from Colorado. Each addresses the power of a State to (1) place conditions on Electors and (2) remove electors for failing to adhere to the conditions. Here’s a good long article on the issues and stances of each side’s arguments. https://www.scotusblog.com/2020/05/argument-preview-justices-to-weigh-constitutionality-of-faithless-elector-laws/ I happened to stumble upon C-Span and I’m listening to each case being argued. This Covid is good for something, I guess.

^^^^^ can’t read. ^^^^^ doesn’t understand. I never said anything about early-term pregnancies. I’m not going to continue to repeat myself other than to say you’re wrong and it’s okay. Carry on with your conversation with Tiberius.

Your premise was that “the law” defines a “person” to be “born alive”. It’s wrong, and frankly you were stating it in a fairly smarmy way. Based upon Roe vs. Wade, a fetus does indeed have a Constitutional right to be born. After the second trimester, a duty is placed upon people not to offend the right of a fetus to be born. Rights are not conferred upon house plants, but on people. I don’t know why I need to repeat myself, am I not being clear? You’ve brought in NY Penal Law 125. It has nothing to do with your initial premise. The law does indeed recognize that one does not have to be born alive to have the rights of, and be treated as, a person. You’re simply not correct. It’s okay.

All of which buttresses my point that the Supreme Court has conferred a Constitutionally protected right on fetuses,and therefore the law treats unborn fetuses as people — before they are born alive. This right extends to acts against fetuses, which wouldn’t be punishable if fetuses were not considered people. Therefore, you CAN compare the annual rate of late term abortions vs. gun homicides in the United States and safely say that one and the other are approximately ecactly the same (at least in 2017). Your initial premise is false.

^^^^^ see my edited post, above.

Not every jurisdiction is New York. And my hypothetical wasn’t related to abortion prosecutions. More like domestic abuse or vehicular manslaughter, etc.

Yep, I said the law recognizes a fetus as a person. Contrary to what you said. I also said that your assertion that gun violence kills more people than abortions is not true, at least in 2017 it wasn’t true. You’re also wrong about Mueller. He was appointed by the Department of Justice. He was to have, and did, report his findings to the Department of Justice. The DOJ was the Executive branch agency which had the authority to act on the findings, or not. If congress wanted someone to investigate, they could have appointed a special counsel — who would investigate and report to Congress.

Is this where someone says bye Felicia?

Curious. Did anyone actually tell Sullivan that they wanted to file amicus briefs? Or did Sullivan invite people to come forward if they’ve got something to say? His Order is confusing because it says amicus briefs may be filed, but then he goes on to limit who and why anyone would be allowed to file the brief. It doesn’t make sense. If he doesn’t like what Barr did, he can sentence Flynn even though the prosecution has dropped out. The guilty plea is still there. It didn’t go away yet, not until Sullivan says so. What the heck does he need amicus filings for? Hasn’t he ever presided over a criminal case before?

Well you’re saying that the law defines what a “person” is, but at the same time a third trimester fetus is deemed to have the right not to be aborted, except in certain excepted cases. A fetus has a Constitutionally protected right to be born. A major feature of laws is that they confer rights to some people and obligations on other people. Inanimate objects don’t have rights, people have rights. Also, consider the fact that someone could be charged with two counts of homicide if they kill a pregnant woman. My point it that your “born alive” riddle answer isn’t black and white. I don’t buy your answer.

I think you might prefer a mezzanine seat.

What about the viability of a fetus? Abortions generally can't be performed, per Roe vs. Wade in the third trimester (there are exceptions). That 24-28 week standard is almost 50 years old. Viability is actually sooner than that, based upon today's medicine. So, yes, you want to play the "person" game, but actually a person can easily be considered, by law, as a fetus in the third trimester. Looking at it that way, there are thousands of late-term abortions each year in the United States. Still fewer than total gun deaths, but maybe as many as homicides. I tend to stay away from abortion discussions, so I won't be responding to any of your replies on this, just so you know. Edit: 2017 late term abortions were approximately 11,000 in 2017 https://s27589.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/CLI-Fact-Sheet-Late-Term-Abortion-February-24-2020.pdf 2017 gun homicides in 2017 were approximately 11,000 https://www.statista.com/statistics/249803/number-of-homicides-by-firearm-in-the-united-states/ You may not be as right as you think you are.

I get your point, and I haven’t had the opportunity to look at the list, but I’d wager that we could crack the top ten if we are skeptical of some countries’ reporting. And we could even get into the top five if we factor in testing capabilities.

There’s no context to your statement. Judging any President’s performance needs to take into account many factors in place at the time he’s in office. Very generally speaking, there are three co-equal branches of government; there are other acting countries and governments; there are terrorist actors; the world economy affects ours; our own economy affects domestic policy; only about 55% of the electorate, at best, is supportive; the electorate’s societal ills affect domestic policy; the media’s treatment of the President. You’d be hard pressed to find any President who’s performance is better than mediocre, at best.

Well then perhaps this is the time for the Federal Gov’t or the governors of the states in the NE corridor (D.C. to Boston) to put out a regional plan with their own, uniform reopening rules that are separate from the rest of the country. And I don’t mean slower, I mean different set of rules.

Nassau County Executive is saying, without any details whatsoever, that they’re not likely to be reopening until the end of June. We are going into our eighth week of “Pause”. The end of June would be more than 14 weeks, if Ms. Curran’s prediction comes true.

That April post had a short shelf life.

That quote from the Governor and that chart showing the 7 criteria only tell me that NYC and LI aren’t opening up any time soon ☹️. If the city is relying on the MTA to get it’s act together, we’re doomed. The MTA deserves its own thread.

What you said or implied wasn’t clear from your post. That’s why is asked you questions.

Are you saying that China purposefully infected our citizens with Covid-19? I don’t. But if they did purposefully infect us, do you think they’ve got a cure? I don’t. But if they did have a cure, that would be the intelligence we should be focused on. As this point, I don’t really give a rat’s ass when and how this thing started. Maybe later, when we are trying to get reparations and make China pay for the trillions we had to spend to prop up our own citizens. Even then, good luck proving that this was anything more than a colossal mistake.

Pure speculation... I think clear info was suppressed by China until after the phase 1 trade deal was signed with us. Our intelligence was blind, other than to know something was up and it might become something. Maybe our intelligence thought this would be like sars or mers and not become a huge impact on our citizens before burning out — those were the two most recent examples (other than swine flu, for which there’s a vaccine). I think we had our suspicions in January, but couldn’t get any real confirmation from the Chinese. I believe that the infectiousness and h-t-h transmission was downplayed severely. And I believe China likely told everyone that they could pretty much contain the spread outside their borders. Our response was far from good early on, but eventually we found our footing. We lost a lot of lives because of slow info and the resulting slow response. There are other factors, but that’s not the subject here. I’m not sure we should have had to rely on our intelligence. For sars, for mers, for swine flu and Ebola, there’s been a clear history of cooperation among nations. We tried, through the CDC, to ge boots on the ground in China. That request was made at the end of December. We were rebuffed. This would have supplanted the necessity for intelligence. And China’s failure to let us cooperate was a definite surprise.