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Orton was not that bad today. He missed a few throws for sure, but he hit a bunch as well. However, I actually would welcome putting EJ in next week to further progress the inevitible departure of our #1 draft choice flop. Others, need to see, once again, how bad he is. Better yet, put in the full playbook, and lets see how he does with that.....instead of the coddled partial book he operated with earlier. Now, we also need a new O coordinator...despite Marrones comments this past week about blaming himself. If Hackett isn't gone, Marrone needs to go also. Marrone, if he is smart, will kick himself upstairs become a true head coach, and turn over the O to somebody who knows what to do. I am thinking we might be able to get Trestman from the Bears, we could do a lot worse. If Marrone won't agree to do something like that, Whaley needs to get rid of Marrone. I have seen enough....Hackett or Hackett/Marrone has produced two bad offenses.....need another designer who knows the NFL game. Success at Syracuse apparently doesn't translate to the pro's. EJ can't even get the ball in the same ZIP code on longer throws......I watched from the stands these last two years.....what games are you watching?

Yep, long time season ticket holder. The improvements were OK, not great. Like the easy lower bowl access. The scoreboards are great also. The store is OK, but we shopped at halftime of the Green Bay game....looking for whatever. No Large or Extra Large in the house, only small and medium. At 6'5'', I was shutout. they were just selling out the unmoved inventory. Of course, there were tons of Manuel jerseys unsold. ( Lots of non believers out there.) No Orton jerseys on sale...I wonder if we should read something into that? wrt to the stadium rest rooms, some typical stupidity in practice on them. Not remodeled inside, that was OK, but the entrance and exit scheme was screwed up big time. Used to be....two doors both enter and exit. Now, one labeled Entrance, one not labeled at all with no exterior handle to open. Used to be two large traffic jams at the doors.....now one HUGH traffic jam at the entrance....as everybody enters and leaves through the one door (almost) The exit not well marked on the inside, and the room half empty. No problem for me though, I stand at the unlabeled exit door until somebody comes out, and I use that door to enter, not entering the scrum at the other door. All in all, they needed to upgrade the stadium....and it was a minimum attempt. I think the new lease and these upgrades played in the owner transition....and resulted in the Bills staying in Buffalo, so I am not going to gripe at all. Go Bills!!!

He been surprisingly good against the run, because, last year, he wasn't on the field against the run...as Pettine felt he was weak in phase of the game. He has proven to be capable this year, but who knows in another defensive scheme. He fits Schwartz definition of a DE. Frankly, when Schwartz announced that Hughes was to be starting DE, I was a little concerned because of the 2013 performance. So, any team that puts up big for Hughes (say 48 for 4) is taking a BIG chance based on one years performance. Just like when you draft, you look for multiple years of good performance. Jerry was one dimensional last year, all around this year. Which is the real Jerry......the marketplace will tell us.

I would love to see Hughes in a Bills uniform for the next many seasons. But, the cap management thing has to be recognized as a legit factor in overall team success. If I have to pick one, I pick Dareus over Hughes. The Bills front office has a decent record at setting their number and letting folks walk if they demand more. Certainly the Byrd thing was the correct call in retrospect. And, the Levertre situation was also correct, as he is a drag on Tenn these days. And, over the years other passes were correct. Jonas Jennings never played much in SF, but got $75 mil. Same story Nate Clements. Same George Wilson. I have to grudgingly admit, Whittner has been more of a success in the other teams than I thought her would, but he is making much less than he demanded from the Bills. In those circumstances, I think some of these guys just want to get away from the Bills losing culture....I am sympathetic to that feeling...as I have some version of that also. I am willing to let Whaley and whoever replaced Littman make those calls, and hope, perhaps, that Marrone is also in the room as he appears to be able to see the real player, not the marketing hype version of the player (see EJ, Gilmore)

Pittsburg isn't hospitable either. My son had problems down there when he was in grad school there. As a season ticket holder at the Ralph, I always try to go out of my way to be nice to the visiting fans. Had two Green Bay fans next to me last weekend (who were from NF Ontario btw), and had good conversation with them. Buffalo is the city of good neighbors and we should act that way!!!

Jerry needs to get paid, irrespective of the relative assistance of playing along side a really strong overall front 7. Could relationships play into it. yes, but not in the first two of 8 digits.....

It might help if Sammy didn't quit on his routes ....which he has been occasionally doing.

I saw the Packers game live, Fred is mostly done as a RB in the league. He runs with heart, guile, skill, but not speed. His 3 yds /carry would be 4.5 if he had anything left on the speed front. He might survive as a thrid down back a year or two, but cannot and should no be the #1 back. Lots of intangibles with Fredex, but father time has robbed him of his speed. Maybe the groin injury is still hampering him...sort that out in training camp next year. In the mean time, keep CJ, he is a great talent....but not sure I can see the dollars shown in the poll. CJ isn't injury prone.....although it hurt us the last two years....he did pretty good before that.

Scchwartz sill collecting from the Lions.....yes, the Bills pay him, but he could have sat home for two years and cashed checks. Get gets nothing incrementally for being active w the Bills. (I think thats right, anyhow)

My view is that Cousins would be the perfect add to compete with EJ and Orton next year. Tuel needs to be gone, and , maybe, EJ. I think the zoo that was Washington made it hard for Cousins to succeed. They gave up on him in Washington.....OK, and he has a lot more upside than Colt McCoy. And, the fact that the price is right is beside the point. Cousins played well for a number of games. And, with RG3 out a lot due to injury, he has a lot of playing time under his belt. We have done well with another refugee from Washington....Barcardi Rambo.....I would like to try this one also.

Its an old story....Goodwin is Marrone/Whaley's pick...Graham was not. They kept THEIR guy. Probabily the wrong decision IMHO. Having said that, TJ wasn't great by any means. Now, the question is, is duribility a disqualifying issue? I guess it should be......and, even when he is healthy, they are not going downfield to Goodwin at all. This, however, is Hackett all the way....cannot penalize Goodwin for the lack of calling deep throws....can argue the OC doesn't have the stones to make those calls. So, I am saying, get rid of Hackett, give Goodwin another shot...use him as a receiver only.....and lets see if the world class speed can have an effect. He is the fastest man in the NFL, hands down....and all the opposing coaches know it!!! Ahhh.....how would you know whether Orton can make that throw. I am thinking that we haven't seen a verticle/downfield game at all from Hacketts. I am for a new OC who will call the occasional long ball. Of course, they are playing 15 yards off of Goodwin, we should be taking the easy 10-12 every time. But, we are not.......need to use Square pegs in Square holes.....but our OC seems only have his O......which is popgun short stuff all the time.

Fun discussion, but, all I care about is winning both remaining games.....one at a time.....let the playoff chips fall where they may. Broadcast world hinting that playoff format will change next year, embarassment of the NFC having a playoff team with serious losing record being the motivation. (and maybe more money from TV)

RG3 is EJ without all the good character traits. He is more worried about his commercial franchise (subway anyone?) than football...thats why Gruden is DONE with him. He and Marrone will not coexist......at least EJ is trying to learn the job...may not have the skills, but trying.

It would help if they practiced on the field they play on...but, NOooooo, they go in the dome. Sammy did slip a lot in the GB game, and made another bunch of mistakes like penalities (downfield blocking, snap count wrong) and quiting on routes. I am not seeing the big hype for Sammy being all straight, I think they are marketing to some substantial degree.

Unfortunately, Fred did it all against Green Bay with heart, Strength and moxie......and zero speed. Fred needs to be done in this league as a #1 back. He might be a thrid down back for another season....but he shouldn't be carrying from scrimmage. Very noticeable when you see Boobie and Brown run....they still have NFL speed. (yeh, Boobie does, looks faster than Fred)

I think Marrone got 4 years out of the box....and he will not be a lame duck next season, should he last that long.

No, EJ started sliding and not running.....he needed to getsome first downs with his legs....and he wasn't, either from coaching or fear of getting hurt again. EJ is a step down from Orton right now, and until he proves otherwise in a preseason game, he is bench material. The fact is Orton has a better arm and accuracy....EJ has a strong arm, but his inaccuracy is disqualifying in my view. EJ will never support a verticle game......I am, actually, done with EJ........would prefer they dump him asap, and draft another qb.

The long one down the left side near the end of the game...Sammy quit on the route....thats not on Orton.....

The O yesterday struggled. Orton's characteristics were not the issue, however. On one series, Fred Jackson dropped bot the second and third down passes to him......thats not on Orton. Sammy had a series where he dropped on, had a penality...another 3 and out. Sammy quit on a route late in the game, thats tough when you are throwing to a spot. Glenns problems yesterday.....all in all, Orton didn't stop the O yesterday, the rest of the team more than did there part....and I watched from the 45 yard line 30 rows up.

Missing Searcy is a big problem.......I am not yet a believer in Duke Williams......we will find out today. If I were Rodgers, I would go after Williams big time, see if he can play.

Byrd was a B player at safety..lots of picks, but not good on the run. He had instincts, but was slow......Whaley got it right.......offered B player money...but NO got it wrong. And, after two years now of not being healthy, I think that not getting Byrd to resign here was a master stroke.

Hughes was a part time player last year....10 sacks, but none the less, weak on the run. Better this year for sure...and the listed starter. 9.5 sacks, and counting, a classic contract year performance. I will let others speculate on how much he will get from whom, hope its the Bills for the right price. Now, about linebacking.....everybody saying Spikes is gone......I have heard from Spikes when the games are played....he is out there making plays. On the other hand, Rivers is not....thinking he is the one to be gone. Spikes has a role on this team if he is willing to play the old vet and do what is needed when......not sure about Rivers....Bradham and Kiko great outsides, we have to see if Brown is OK in the middle....I worry that those three are all outside guys. Spikes is a for sure middle, lets keep one of those around. Great to be talking about talent......and, just to remind everyone....Randall Johnson has not seen the field I don't think....they are keeping him on the roster for some reason....I am thinking he is a stud also...just in waiting....

I saw that watching live, and wondered at the no call. But, it fit the pattern of protecting the Bronco's at home, I figured it was just more "home cooking" to have a no call. BTW....that would have meant 15 yds for the Bills at that point.......just sayin.....

Yep, we would not be at 7-6 without Orton. I don't see Manuel making that last second throw to Sammy in Detroit......in fact, I don't see Manuel making any long throws any time. Better arm is really the sort betlween, forget all that other stuff. Throwing accuracy is the #1 prerequsite for a pro QB, and Manuel fails on that. Strong arm, yes, accurate, not so much. (unfortunately) I remember last year, when Thad Lewis played, I was taken by how much better his arm was than EJ's........almost a replay of the step up we got when Orton came in this year. And, Thad, regressed in Buffalo...and is now backup in Houston, I think.

Actually, that would have a positive, as I think that would settle the EJ dialog....don't think EJ can do it.......sooner that shows, the better. I wish the receiving corp could go public and vent their view. As a Season Ticket holder, I saw the games where the receivers were giving their gestures of frustration when EJ missed them time after time........Marrone had help in making the decision to bench EJ, he was getting an insurection out of the wr corp.