Mister Defense

Exactly. That is why this stupidity, call for this horrendous move by the Bills, is so much like what some ignorant posters were saying about Lynch--he is a thug, and not that good anyway, look at home many yards he has this year, and that Fred Jackson is very capable, even better probably, so let's get rid of Lynch. We don't need him, easily replaceable... And then, with so much nonsense guiding their 'thought' 'process', most were quite pleased by the fact the Bills got a 4th round and conditional pick (5th round) for by far the best player on the Bills, one of the best running backs and players in the NFL. Ignorance often makes for supremely bad analysis and conclusions and this is a very clear example of that. If we Ignore all kinds of facts and reality, and are okay being guided by nonsense, fabrication, then yes, let's get rid of Cook. Easily replaceable, as Lynch was.

Yup, what happened with Lynch was as dumb as what some are calling for in the case of Cook. The things Lynch did were not huge red flags, but the actions by a young player new to the league making stupid mistakes. He was not used well at all by Gailey, and that is why the Bills had to showcase him in the game before the trade deadline when, of course, Lynch showed he was the best player on the team, field, and one of the top in the league. He was soon traded for almost nothing. He lead them to several Super Bowls and is a sure fire first ballot Hall of Famer. Cook did the same kinds of thing this year, and looked better and better, as all great players at his age tend to do. He is one of the top backs in the league, one of the best at running and catching, with elite speed, vision, and toughness. Many used the fact to support the Lynch trade that we had a good running back in 30+ year old Freddy Jackson to be the featured back. Lynch, like Cook now, was disposable to the ultra dumb fans who could not see the forest through the trees. Sad how some people, who don't use facts much, cannot see beyond their own misguided thoughts and strange whims. But I am confident the Bills pay Cook very well, and soon. If not, they will look as dumb as those who traded away Lynch.

It's a tired old, worn out cliche, that maybe had an iota of validity for 2 years. (But is your post a joke on that, or real?) It is pure stupidity today. Would be just as ridiculous to say never pay cornerbacks, wide receivers, lineman... just as ignorant--no basis in facts or reality. It is the same philosophy that the WORST teams in the NFL still rely on to make their awful decisions. Please see the Giants, Raiders, Titans, Bengals... and see how their belief in that dumb cliche, with no basis in reality, worked out for their teams. And then look at the teams those misguided mega dumb teams they traded with...

Someone more ambitious than I am should go back to some of the threads before and after the trade of Marshawn Lynch. They should look at all of the immensely ignorant and flat out stupid things that were said in regards to unloading by far the best player on the team, how that would be a good thing. How many of the same yahoos saying we should unload Lynch, and for some of the same type of mega stupid reasons, are now calling for Cook to be let go? And what kind of mega stupid reasons did people have for that bizarre move, the worst the Bills have ever made. I think we'd, at the very least, see the parallels in the level of arrogance, idiocy, and stupidity.

They will likely sign him for @12 million a year, with some extra incentives. I cannot imagine any Bills fan thinking that is overpaying for what is likely the 2nd best player on the team, one of the best running and receiving running backs in the league, and a big difference maker on this offense. Yes, underutilized this year, but that will not be the case next year.. To not do so would be a phenomenally ignorant and stupid move, creating a big hole in the offense as you lose one of the most dynamic play makers on the team--and in the league. At 25 years old. It would go down in team history as one of the worst moves ever. That is what the old, ignorant Bills would do--not this incarnation of the team. I have significant confidence that they pay Cook very well, and lock him up for 4-5 years.

?? You obviously did not hear that running backs are a dime a dozen? In fact, about 20 or so geniuses on this board have been saying that for year, and still, despite what everyone else has seen with their own eyes. 'Let Cook walk'! But why would the Bills trade away either of their two top players right now, creating more needs to fill in the draft and off season?

Well, one of the biggest Bills' busts ever was their first round pick (#19) out of Clemson in 1982, wide receiver Perry Tuttle. He had 107 yards his first year, then 261 in 1983, by far his best year as a pro. Then, cut or traded, and in his 3rd best year in the NFL he caught 1 pass for 7 yards. Went on to have a good career in the CFL, but no one cares, at least in our country.

You retire and go out in heap, which is very fitting for such a bad guy. Or, you beg another team to take you on, hoping there is another team as dumb, dysfunctional, and short sighted as the jets. Either way, as pathetic an ending as one could hope for such a guy. He thought he would go out like Brady did! But to someone like rodgers, all of that work that Brady put in, mentally and physically, were not even on his radar. Too arrogant and crazy to think he needed to step up his game if he were to play well into his 40's.

A sad day for Bills fans, as the jets never had a chance with that washed up nutjob. I had hoped he would never leave. But all good things come to an end sooner or later. Part of life. Hopefully they continue being the jets and bring in someone with the same kind of skills and leadership ability as our boy, forever, aaron rodgers.

You should go back and read the many super ignorant posts in this thread (and in other similar rb threads). It seems clear that a bunch of people would not want that either, would think that is overpaying for our 2nd best player, 25 year old back, who scored over 20 touchdowns this year.

Wow, you think that poster is unrealistic!!? He got that many yards only because the Bills did not use him the way other teams have used their top running backs. He was the 6th best back this season in ypc with 4.9. Cook became a (more) elite back this year, with amazing vision, speed and, with added size and strength, a back who consistently broke tackles. And he scored over 20 touchdowns. "Let him walk"!!! Come on, it is a flat out preposterous thing to say about the 2nd best player on the team. If the Bills' leadership ever shows this kind of supreme ignorance, like a previous leadership group did with Lynch, it would make me lose hope for the future, this team's potential.

I cannot disagree more with the comment, now in bold, above. It would not be wise, but on the contrary, would be a huuuge mistake, and one based exclusively on significant ignorance and stupidity. Get rid of one of the top players on the team, a man just starting to come into his own, and, to this point, very underutilized? Would be so unwise, it would go down in the team history, like the Lynch trade, as one of the biggest mistakes the Bills have ever made. Amazing how many in this thread are just casually saying it is fine, a good thing for some, to just cut ties with what is likely the 2nd best player on our team. And one of the best all around running backs in the league.

Hmm, I was there for his last game when the conventional wisdom was that he was just being used then, after not getting consistent carries, because the Bills wanted to showcase him for trade value. For an out of shape guy he looked like the super fast, bruising, unstoppable force that he was then, and that he would be for years, leading to several Seattle Super Bowls and Hall of Fame career. I think that out of shape crap was just the Bills, or media, covering their backs, knowing what an amazing player he was.

Honestly, those just throwing Cook overboard and somehow still suggesting that good running backs are a dime a dozen, easily replaced, are spewing some of the most ignorant, outrageous football nonsense imaginable. How outrageous? One poster comparing the loss of Cook to the loss of Gabe Davis last year, somehow equating the two players and their value to the Bills. Yikes, yikes and more yikes. Scary ignorance, making me so happy that none of those crazy thoughts are likely shared by any sentient leader at One Bills Drive.

Yikes, as if the last few years never happened in the NFL. Same kind of shocking ignorance that had posters railing against Marshawn Lynch and thinking his trade to the Seahawks was a good move. Good, great, elite running backs are NOT a dime a dozen. Please watch the last season again... and with open eyes. He won't get 20 million but likely 15 on average. And nope, he will cost more than a dime. Sorry. It is just like the McDermott haters, and often the same group. You cannot change their views, no matter the clear trend in the NFL the last few years, and the immense value of a high level running back to creating a championship contender. They just close their eyes and repeat the cliches about running backs and the running game not being that relevant, that so many ignorant people have been saying for years. They believe that repeating others' ignorant thoughts makes theirs legitimate, sharp.

I would say no way in he*l would Tomlin ever let this team wrecking, culture destroying player even near his team, let alone leading it. rodgers would undermine him every step of the way, just like he has done to his coaches for years. People often get more crazy as they age, and rodgers has clearly demonstrated he is on that train for good now. He will be extremely lucky to get any serious job offers, unless the jets are footing almost the entire bill. More likely that he is done, and heads off into the darkness hopefully.

Oh well. Was hoping for one more comically inept, disastrous year for him and the jets. It was fun while it lasted. Hopefully the jets will need to eat a huge salary for him this year. Someone should go back and count all of the Bills' fans in this forum who were scared of this washed up has been, wicked head case, leading the jets. I heard the Cam Newton is looking to make a comeback. If not, possibly Kirk Cousins? In any case, I have confidence the jets will pick that caliber of player for rodgers to hand the reigns of the team over to.

Um, yes, I think the answer is yes for almost all fans, media, and also folks in charge, a no brainer. See all of the other threads on all of the big name defensive players people want, please... How do you think we would go about getting a Garrett or a Crosby? Not all of the draft picks, of course, but the draft alone will not do it for the Bills, though the draft picks themselves will need to do some of the heavy lifting.

Excellent OP. I agree with all that you say except don't understand your points on Ty Johnson. Yes, like all of the running backs this year, underutilized in the running and passing game, but he is an excellent weapon when used correctly. It seems almost every time he touches the ball, whether running or passing, he makes a very positive play for the offense. I agree with the Cooper, idea, and the price you mention. I bet that will happen. If he still looks anything like he looked in Cleveland, when he's healthy again, he will be a superb weapon. Reminds me of a bigger Shakir or Beasley, but getting open in the intermediate range more. Great route runner and separator. If he still has those traits, a no brainer. But the Bills will still get a top tier wide receiver, in free agency or the draft. Leaning toward the former, as they want to win now, not wait for a rookie to develop.

Come on!! Just illogical nonsense in your initial point, making you sound like Nick Wright or, worse, Shannon Sharp, especially the latter, with zero basis in fact, reality there. Yup, the Bills are just good against weaker opponents--beat the #1 AFC seed this season, the only team to do so, beat the #1 NFC seed, in their own stadium, dominated the Broncos in the playoffs, shoot did they even threaten to score after that first TD?, beat the powerhouse, going to smash the Bills to smithereens Ravens in the divisional round... And you can go on and on, and do the same thing for the last season. Almost all would agree the Bills need an influx of talent on the d-line, and a few other key defensive players. But your first line above is a joke, complete BS.

Okay, thanks for the response. But keep thinking the process through from there, what they would need to do to implement it... Goodell would then need to make sure someone such as Ramon George, the head of NFL Officiating is informed of his decision to ensure that the Chiefs get preferential treatment against the teams they play, and the types of calls/non calls Goodell has in mind. Then, of course, the referees themselves would need the same information, if they are to help Goodell and the NFL with their scheme. And then the NFL would have to hope, beyond hope, I think, that all parties involved, every official, every referee, and all of Goodell's people who helped him implement this plan, remain completely quiet on this matter now and for the rest of their lives. If not, of course it would be the biggest scandal in sports history. 16 billion was bet on last year's Super Bowl, and they estimate 23 billion will be bet this year. And I assume several billion at least was wagered on the championship game, and ditto for each of the playoff games etcetera. If one referee stepped forward to spill the beans on this enormous and immensely illegal conspiracy by the NFL, the bettors would likely win tens of billions of dollars, at least, in their lawsuits against the league. I think many on this forum would be part of these enormous class action lawsuits. And they would win. And those attending these rigged games would also want their money back, and they too would likely win their huge class action lawsuits. Etcetera etcetera... And the most important thing to any sport, its basic integrity would be shattered for a very long time. Of course Goodell, and his goons, would also likely be sent to prison for the rest of their lives. Massive fraud, historically so. Seems a little bit risky when teams like the Bills and Lions would almost assuredly garner better ratings, don't you think?

Well, yes, the OP is talking about Kelce's retirement, but they are clearly focused on the reason they want Kelce to retire. Correct?--that is their main focus, why his retirement is so needed? As the short OP says: "Right now the Taylor factor is to big for the NFL to not want KC to make it to the super bowl. There is to much money to be had with her bringing in fans that would never watch the super bowl." etcetera It is clearly , and I would say unequivocally implying there has been a significant conspiracy by the NFL to favor KC in games, including playoff games and possibly the Super Bowl because of the relationship between Kelce and Swift. That is the point of the topic, the point of the OP--the conspiracy to favor KC in games by the NFL because of the Kelce/Swift relationship. And that is the only reason the poster gives for wanting Kelce to retire. It is crystal clear that that is the focus, the main topic of the OP, the reason why they want Kelce to retire. I cannot imagine how any sentient adult would support such a statement. Just a completely unsupported whim, a feeling, by one person, with zero to back it up, nothing. Do you agree with the OP's main point?

It seems above you are implying that is, at least in part, why she maintains the relationship with Kelce, as you connect the two ideas. But why would what many would say is the biggest star in the music world before dating Kelce care about the 'commercial benefits' of dating him as you indicate? Wouldn't this billionaire care less about the commercial benefits you point to and instead want a relationship based on other, more personal and legitimate qualities?

What makes you think Goodell gets 'much more' than 64 million under the table? And why would it be 'under the table'? With the kind of money you are suggesting it would be extremely illegal for both the NFL and Goodell. It would mean Goodell likely spends the rest of his life in prison when this all comes out in public, which is bound to happen soon, with the extensive number of people that would need to be involved.

Okay, an extremely bold statement above, so now in bold-see above. Since you say that, how do you see this all coming together? Who would tell the officials to "favor one team"? Who would have told someone to tell the officials to do this? In order for this conspiracy theory to have legs, one would have to have some basic answers on those parts. I am assuming you and others supporting this have your ideas, so please share with us. Thanks.