Mister Defense

To me, this post loses its credibility when you (Kubiak?) say: "Bills only had ball on O for 23 minutes, largely because defense could not get off the field quickly." Huh? Did you (Kubiak?) watch this game? The offense is the main reason for this. They had under 40 yards in the first half after the first drive--and into the 2nd quarter, drive after drive with a catastrophically low number of both first downs and yards. And they ran the ball, what 5-6 times, with their running backs!? And the lack of TOP is on the defense? Completely nonsensical. The defense took some time to get settled, but then limited the Bengals to one field goal in the second half, though missing their best CB (and then another starter in the game), best run stuffeing lineman, best linebacker (and then another starter in the game), and best defensive end. Ridiculous to call out the defense as the problem in general, and then specifically for the lack of offensive time of possession. So easy to shoot that silly, illogical idea down with the facts.

Ridiculous response. They have it right, and not enough around here are saying what they really believe, especially the media closely associated with the Bills. Clearly. If they were this would be done by now and the offense, and this team, would have a chance to rebound. They'd have hope again. But if I were a Pats fan I would want Dorsey to stay too. Should we sign him to a long term deal right now, so someone else doesn't nab him as a head coach in the off-season? (There has to be a desperate middle school team out there somewhere...)

Yuo, another aspect of his many fatal flaws. ONE of them, such as this one in itself, would be enough to get most OC fired, but Dorsey has a slew. Somehow he learned almost nothing about the important big picture aspects of creating a good offense, the things just below that, and the small details despite many years of NFL experience. Dumb, lazy, careless?? Something else? Hard to tell, but the flaws are all out there now for all the world to see, no matter what McDermott or Tasker say. They know like we know. Utterly shocking that he became the OC, that he remained so for this year--but much much worse, that he is still on the job as I type this.

That attempt to be more efficient has zero to do with the move to a more efficient offense in itself, in fact, that may be one of the only good things done this year. Your points are not logical. Like M Rob said before the Tampa game on the pregame show, the loss the week before against the Pats was not a failure of Allen--there was a lack of options for Allen when they blitzed. It was the short, efficient game that was missing and to make it much worse, there were not the kind of in game changes needed to correct this, changes even a poor OC would make, until it was too late. Other respected analysts, including Orlosky said very similar things, such as they needed a "plan" and need one going forward. The short game is where it is at for this team. Beasley was that, and that, not Diggs, started Allen on the road to superstar. It was almost always there for him, and that made the big plays with Diggs and others more possible. But that opens up the long game when it is working. But we don't have an OC who plays it like, but instead just keeps doing the same things, as if he has no clue about that simple fact. Etcetera. This is those saying let's just not run the ball as much! Humorously poor logic there too. Everyone will continue to play wack a mole when it comes to the offense's problems, not seeing the forest through the trees.

No thanks, but of course he is better than what we have, overall. At least there is a good chance a few aspects of the offense would function effectively.

Yes, in itself. But also showed us that the defense is still doing the things needed to win games, to step up. The offense cannot, despite a lot of talent, and that is what is making the players look so dejected, shocked even. So many obstacles are placed in their way that they CANNOT succeed. They are losing hope, and dangerously, their confidence, as for some that may never come back fully. More than any other reason that is why a breath of fresh air is needed today.

Thank you--great stats, showing the now rapid offensive decline and why it is imperative to make the change now, not at the end of the season. Why? The trend will clearly continue and the offense very very likely continue to regress. As the impact of Daboll waned and waned last year we all saw the regression, culminating in no chance at all in the playoff game, and, unless McD wakes up, will almost assuredly mean the Bills don't even get a chance to redeem themselves in this year's party. NOW...

Well, I like it, as he does look a lot like our crazed and incompetent OFFENSIVE coordinator, doesn't he?

Yes, as soon as I saw that he was the OC of Cleveland I knew they would be one of the best defenses in the league. It is especially important this year, as McDermott cannot adequately address the catastrophic happenings in the offense this year as the HC and defensive coordinator. He cannot be in all places at all times and as just the HC he would be more directly on top of this undoing of his team by an extremely incompetent OC.

Yes, and one would expect, the players are doing things they would not normally do, and that go against their nature, because of the across the board fundamental flaws of their OC. If a change is not made in the coming weeks McDermot risks Dorsey undermining the future of several players. He is shattering the confidence of even the best players.

I agree. You would think maybe they would call plays for him that appeal to his strengths, in the intermediate range (which may open and facilitate more of the deeper routes as well)), But this OC does not seem to care or know how to do things like this, with one player after another... Beyond all of his other fundamental flaws, one that in itself means he will not be able to win in this league or even on most college teams as well.

This is a fundamentally flawed offense, of course and obviously, to almost all who have payed attention. One of the problems going forward is that they will not be able to make good personnel evaluations if Dorsey finishes the year. When you have these kind of fundamental problems your eyes WILL deceive you, as things are not as they should be--almost everyone will look worse and start taking on new flaws. Allen is dejected, almost devastated, that this is happening and it shows in his demeanor and game. Do we really know what we actually have with Gabe Davis??

This defense, with arguably the best players at every position not playing now, gets a pass, and should from all. They have kept the Bills in almost every game this year, and did again, clearly, on the road against the Bengals. But the healthy re-loaded offense does not get one. Another shocking stat there. Thanks. Keep them coming, as I assume some in the Bills follow this site. Maybe one of these stats, or the combo of them, will force their hand now, and give the Bills a fighting chance to salvage this year. Almost no chance now as Dorsey will not be able to beat almost any good coaches or defenses.

I said it at the time--getting a 33 year old linebacker, not an offensive linemen or end, a linebacker, who was 33 years old and being payed HUGE guaranteed money was the worst mistake of Beane's tenure. (Now that has been replaced by bringing back Dorsey this year, a problem that he owns with every game, and every day, he lets this stand.) Miller was a showy splash play that went against their philosophy. Bills could have used that money for a top notch receiver or corner or edge rusher--but not one considerably past his prime.

Come on!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT is why there are these clear and shocking statistics, (and maybe the reason the Bills' offense has fallen off a cliff this year too?) and the fact the Bills have fallen out of playoff contention? Do your own eyes deceive you? Makes no sense at all, whistling past the graveyard... Ditto! Shakir looks like him, sure handed, smooth, gets separation--so why did it take Dorsey so long to see what I and so many others saw??? And saw too late, to maybe save the season--as there are many many other things he doesn't see either it seems.

Well, McDermott's defense proves time and time again they can play well and beat good offenses--despite having lost some of the best players on EVERY level of their defense. And proves he will adjust quickly within the game and make the needed changes. Dorsey has proven that he cannot plan well for good defenses, against good DCs, and that it takes him much much too long to make in game adjustments, But the fish rots at the head, so unless Dorsey is fired now, this week, or very soon, it will be on McDermott. Now, today... Nothing left to see here

Well, yeah, in part, but need to add in the slew of big obvious fundamental mistakes he had made, makes, and will make for as long as he is the OC. I am still holding out for a Thanksgiving miracle--that at least will give the new OC a (slim) chance of overcoming this nonsense.

??? Obviously that has to be be Rasul Douglas. Why not an option in the poll?

It may go down as one of Beane's best moves ever.. I had given up hope yesterday that the Bills would add a good CB, as there is an almost desperate need for one with the injury to White, Elam's failure to launch, and the injuries to Milano and Jones. May mean the end for T White as a Bill, but not relevant right now. With some of the best receivers, QBs, and offenses in the NFL yet to come this year, a superb move in my view. Go Beane!!

Another player who is really over estimating his worth now in his later years.

We have eyes, we can see--and one NFL analyst after another has been calling out the scheme the last few weeks. M Rob clearly implied that the Bills should drop Dorsey after the season ends and he is not a blowhard who rips into coaches.

Nice move! With 668 rushing AND 523 receiving last year, this gives the Bills a much better running back situation. They were too light in that area and if they are to contend this year the running backs, including their receiving, must become an integral part of the offense. But, will Dorsey use him soon? Or wait until the world is screaming that is he not using him?

Nope

I disagree with the talent assessment--or, I think I do... As we have so little idea about what we have with so many offensive players because we have either not seen them used or used very poorly. I think this week (and later last week too) we saw some of the potential. Shakir looked like Beasley out there, and Davis, who finally was given one opportunity after another, and often thrown the types of passes we have almost never seen thrown to him, allowing him to use his size and ability, made one good play after another.

As the preseason progressed and stories about Hamlin continued to spread, I just thought this was a very unique situation and the Bills had determined that they could not cut Hamlin this year, no matter how he performed. I think that will be the case for the remainder of the season. I agree with that overall, as it is such a unique situation and there has been so much local and national attention on what happened and then his recovery.