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He's got 458 rushing yards in his career. The last three seasons combined he's had 221 yards. He's a ST guy who if the Bills at some point draft a RB will be fighting for a roster spot.
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I have to agree with C.Biscuit97 on this one.
Duke? Really? You act like that's some major accomplishment.
Duke played 14 games last year. Of those 14, Duke held the other team to under 300 yards exactly 3 times.
6 teams scored 30 or more points against Duke.
Troy (frigging TROY!) put up 31 points and 362 yards against Duke.
Pittsburgh: 58 points and 598 yards.
Duke's football team scares nobody.
In the same respect wouldn't that make another offensive player in Jake Matthews overrated? The same thing can be said when guys are labeled system players. A&M had Joeckul taken 2nd last year. Matthews will be a top 10 pick this year. Ogebehui will be a top 10 pick next year.
With that said I don't think Matthews is over-valued. I think he's the best OT in the draft and Robinson is over-valued. Still wouldn't touch either in the 1st rd. Then again I wouldn't touch any offensive lineman in the 1st.
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That would be a terrible first two rounds. Rather them play it out with Spiller and Jackson. Running backs aren't breaking the bank. Even if they're looking for one wait til later. I'd hate the pick of any offensive lineman in the 1st.
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I think hes got at least as much upside as EJ. Tuel and Lewis are fringe NFL players. Glennon would definately be an upgrade over them. At worst he's an equal to EJ right now.
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I'd bet the Falcons are happy with the trade moving up for Julio Jones. With that said Falcons traded up 21 spots. They also were set at QB. It'd be a ballsy move, I still wouldn't trade up unless you're one player away from a SB. Or going for a QB.
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Brandon Coleman WR Rutgers, Jackson Jeffcoat DE Texas, Deion Belue CB Alabama. The last three drafts run by Nix the Bills have drafted players mostly from BCS Conferences. We'll see how Whaley goes but thus far he's given no indication of what they'll do.
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Bills board
1. Clowney
2. Watkins
3. Matthews
4. Robinson
5. Mack
6. Evans
7. Ebron
8. Lewan
9. Clinton-Dix
10. Barr
My board for the Bills
1. Manziel
2. Evans
3. Watkins
4. Clowney
5. Bortles
6. Ebron
7. Mack
8. Matthews
9. Clinton-Dix
10. Gilbert
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If the Browns take Jake Matthews at 4 for Pettine's sake I hope he's renting not buying a house.
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If that were the case then why wouldn't they make a deal with the Eagles who clearly wanted him. The Bills refused to even converse on the subject.
I think Spiller could still be a dominate primary back if utilized properly...a bulldozer he ain't!
For who? If it isn't for an Andrew Luck type QB then its 3 wasted first round picks....and a 2nd. Since there is no Andy Luck in this draft, Whaley couldn't be this lame.
Exactly. His best season most would agree he was underused. The idea of a primary back as was even 10 years ago is gone. Rather than compare him to maybe the greatest RB ever and how he was used; Hackett should study how Westbrook was used in Philly. The Bills have one game breaker on the team and that's Spiller. Where he was drafted is held against him as if it was his fault the Bills took him with Jackson and Lynch. Running backs aren't getting huge 2nd contracts.
If Spiller wants to hit free agency he's going to have to have an enormous year. Other than that it'd be in the best interest of him and probably the team to get something done.
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My thing has been this. For more than a decade.
I think "draft value" is kinda stupid in the first round (other than RB of course - never ever take a RB in the first round. Ever. Seriously). People say "oh, you cant take a RT or TE or OG at 9," etc. I understand its a risk/reward thing. But if you cant find good players (meaning you cant properly estimate the reward), then hire better scouts.
If you look back at past 1st round drafts, maybe 10-12 of the 32 guys turn out to be worth anything. If you think you know who one of those guys is, take him. Whether you pick 1, or 9, or 25. For example, look at this "crock-of-shtt" draft. There arent really 5 guys worth a damn in the first round:
http://www.nfl.com/d...aft?season=2008
And if you tell me that Kiper-types said "oh, flacco isnt a good value at 11" or "Ryan Clady isnt good value at 11" I'd say you're stupid. Again. Only a handful of these guys will be worth a damn. No matter where you pick, if you think a guy will be a true NFL player, take him and never look back. Seriously, scroll through the first 3-4 rounds of that draft and really see how much garbage there is.
If you draft enuf guys who are worth a damn, regardless of position or Kiper-esque "value," and hire decent coaches, you will soon have a good team.
(I guess this is another way of saying to take BPA, almost regardless of position. And I kinda trust Whaley to do this. If he thinks HaHa is the best true NFL player still remaining at 9, i'll try my best to be cool with that)
Jake Long, Chris Long, Matt Ryan, Clady, Rodgers-Cromartie, Talib, Mayo, McKelvin, Albert, Flacco, Brown, Chris Johnson. All twelve are decent players. Guys like Mike Williams WR, Aaron Curry, Glenn Dorsey, Michael Huff, Robert Gallery were "safe" picks or in some cases listed as BPA by some draft "experts."
So draft good players and you're going to have a good team? I'd say draft a good QB and everything else will fall into place. Like the previously mentioned Matt Ryan turning Atlanta around after that team being a disaster.
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Knowshon Moreno didn't break the bank nor did Ben Tate. I don't think Spiller will either unless he has an 1800 yard season.
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More of Jon Gruden salivating over every player. Hopefully he leaves the booth ASAP.
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im not sitting here saying anyone that thinks he is good or going to be boos is crazy. I realize I'm in the very limited chosen few that thinks he will be a disappointment. But that's my opinion.
Fwiw, the experts all thought the following guys were can't miss coming out of college:
Matt Leinart
Vince young
Jamarcus Russell
Ryan Leaf
Aaron Curry
Vernon Gholston
And let's not get into the guys that all the experts thought would be terrible and ended up producing in this league.
I recall Robert Gallery, Jason Smith also being can't miss. Gholston was thought of as a risk.
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If a guy the Bills want falls and they've gotta move up a couple spots i'd be for it. Just as if the guy they want is expected to be available a few picks down.
I wouldn't trade down too far. I look at the Julio Jones trade where Cleveland got Weeden, and then had to trade back up to get the guy they wanted in the 2011 draft in Phil Taylor.
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Can't wait for the day when our 1st round pick can't even dream of cracking the line-up.
GO BILLS!!!
Maybin wasn't even good enough to play special teams.
As for what's most important it's taking Mike Evans if he's available.
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You do realize that the two are not mutually exclusive?
If the Bills had the best offensive line in the league and E.J. didn't progress they're a 6-10 team. Draft anybody and if Manuel isn't better they won't matter.
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Glenn, but it won't matter unless Manuel proves to be a capable QB.
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They did take Eric Wood in the 1st.
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Bringing in competition for the backup QB position shouldn't be a big deal. I'd explore options. I look at what Seattle did a few seasons ago when they signed Flynn, had Jackson, and drafted Wilson. Competition for positions should be a good thing.
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I dont agree with either point.
Matthews and Robinson would step right in and be studs for at least 4 years. Maybe All pro studs in two or 3.
Lewan has question marks. But a trade down might make me feel better .maybe .
Glad to hear the perception is mystery. Thats a good thing i bet !
Unless i misunderstood you and your least favorite pick would be Lewan at nine ?
Then i apologize 242
Lewan would be the guy I'd hate at 9. I think he'll probably be the pick and won't matter.
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I hate the idea of any offensive lineman at 9. If I had to narrow it to one player it'd be Taylor Lewan.
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Marshawn Lynch, to go along with topic the pick I hated the most was Donte Whitner.
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The young guys who matter for the future of the team won't be playing much. I expect to see Tuel and either a late rd or UDFA playing most of the HOF game. The 3rd preseason game or what will be the 4th for the Bills is generally the only one where starters play a decent amount of time.
Bills, Lions trying to trade UP to ........
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Miami gave up a 2nd to move into the top 3. I don't see the Julio Jones comparison. Atlanta moved up 20 spots. I'd say Atlanta won the trade. Miami moving up to 3 looks like a flop right now with Jordan being a non-factor.