BillsFan130

Yep! Can even say the same about James Cook

Agreed. And they are already paying Oliver and jones pretty well Hard to imagine they pay good money to 3 DTs in a tight cap situation

Agreed. I'm sure every team can say that as well. -Where they are projecting their younger guys to take a step forward. I def don't see the bills being better, but a long way to go until week 1 I guess

Haha. Special teams player, WR5 is most likely what he's gonna be

Probably the Trent sherfield role i would imagine.

I like Gabe in terms of him seeming like a good guy, good work ethic etc and I'm happy he got paid. But I am also happy he signed elsewhere as I don't think he's dynamic enough to be a WR2 on a good offence

They could have cleared 23 if I'm not mistaken?

Fair points

Fair, but with the bills cap situation, I would say it's extremely unlikely the bills are able to add an elite impact player in 2024

Good for singletary. Great dude who works hard

You can't have it both ways though... Burrow is obviously 10x better than Purdy/jimmy g, the QBs Aiyuk has had. If your argument is "chase needs his elite QB to get him his elite stats". What does that say about Aiyuk then, who put up big numbers this year with an average QB at best? You see my point?

Chase for sure. Once again you're basing 2023 vs career.... In 2023 Aiyuk had a better year than chase. You really cannot argue otherwise

To be honest I don't think he is elite in like a top 5 guy either, but he definitely deserved getting to the all pro team last year. Like he was def better than Adams and chase last year who are considered "elite" receivers. Agreed on thuney and Mcduffie

Ok so now we are going to put other circumstances into it because you have no other thing to back up what you're saying? It's not 2022. Or 2021. Aiyuk was an absolute stud last year and was better than Jefferson (due to injury), chase and adams. I'm not gonna reply back unless you have any objective thing to state , opposed to your argument,"trust me bro".

Ok let's compare to some of the guys you said last year. Jefferson- basically missed all season. Adams- Aiyuk had more yards/tds Chase- Aiyuk had more yards/tds. So once again- you are basing it off name recognition with absolutely 0 objectivity to back up what you're saying based on the 2023 nfl season.

You have deeply studied Aiyuk, Thuney, Mcduffie relative to all the other players at their positions , or are you just basing it on "name recognition "? You must have a lot of time on your hands if you can study all those guys every play and compare them to other players at their relative position

Ya he was probably around 5- For elite for my criteria, I personally used top 3-4 at the position . That's why I said borderline elite. It just depends what your definition of elite is That's your opinion. I wanted some objectivity to the criteria and one thing is for certain is all those guys made all pros last season. If you disagree with my criteria, fair enough but I think there has to be some objectivity to this

Please read my criteria on how i put guys elite- it's the first thing I stated in my post

Was he ever a top 3-4 receiver in the league? Maybe 2020, on the fringe. Probably was borderline elite then, but he's definitely not now, that's for sure

I can't see a scenario where Beane doesn't do it. It's a no brainer ImO.

Who is Aaron?

Ya, I mean to your point Theres a reason why top pass rushers get paid 30-35 per year and corners are 20-25. So I would agree pass rush is slightly more important, but definitely need both to have an elite defence. (As we both agree on)

Now this is true. But it also goes both ways. If your corners can't cover for 2 seconds, the pass rush doesn't matter unless the o line is blowing assignments left, right and centre. It has to Be a marriage between the pass rush and coverage in order to have a great defence. Chiefs had it all. Great pass rush, and great coverage which made them a top 3 defence all season long

Yep. I think Oliver hit is ceiling which is fine as he's a very solid player. Bernard and Kincaid def have the potential to be elite

Hahah no problem buddy!