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What a strange trade all around. Not even sure if there is a clear cut winner in this one

I'm not a big McDermott fan, but there's no way you can tell me with a straight face that Rex Ryan, Chan Gailey, Doug Marrone, Gregg Williams, Mike Mularkay and dick Jauron are as good as McDermott.. He literally got the bills in the playoffs without Josh Allen in 2017, something that none of those guys I listed above did. Again, I'm not a big McDermott fan. But there's no way he should be compared to the drought coaches

Purdy for me. No way he is worth 50 plus mil IMO

fair point. Ya I do remember that game for the division and McDaniel somewhat stuck to the run, but like you said, the bills were really effective with some run blitzes that game. McDermott and McDaniel have a pretty good chess game going. Should be fun going into year 4 of them coaching against each other

Easy choice- Baylon Spector...

Those are fair points and very possible. I don't think he's a lock yet either. I do think he's "most likely " going to get in IMO But a lot can change with the points you brought up

Hahaha. Stupid comment, but in some ways he is right lol. Playing conservative worked really well UNTIL that last meeting on November 1st. Bills always played light boxes and Mcdaniel finally learned how to beat it by sticking to the run that last game. Mcdermott will have to be more aggressive the next time we play them, as I do think Mcdaniel finally figured it out.

That's fair. The way I look at- Matt Ryan to me was never a top 3 quarterback in his relative era for many years. (I know he got the mvp the one year) Josh has firmly been a top 3 QB in his relative era for the past 5 seasons now. I know that doesn't mean everything as every era has different competition, but I just never looked at Matt Ryan as an "elite" QB. So I can't really answer your question too well as it's just 100 percent subjective to me. But I clearly think Josh was more of a dominant QB compared to Matty ice IMO

Fair. I do think if he played at a similar level for the next 4 years or so, even without extra hardware, that he gets in. The mvp last season really strengthens his case. Ya Mahomes would for sure- Why do you say Lamar out of curiosity, because of the 2 mvps, all pros etc? Of that list you have- I have him below Brady, brees and Rodgers for sure. Big Ben is probably slightly ahead of him now, but i think that changes in a couple years And got Josh ahead over Rivers, Ryan, Eli. JMO

Agreed. But not sure Josh should be compared with Rivers, unless you are just referring to both never gone to super bowls. Josh already has an MVP and has more playoff wins than Rivers, with some of the best post season stats of all time. Rivers has the upper edge on regular season passing yards/TDs, no denying that. (Josh also has insane stats though)

I don't see how it makes any sense for him to play in Buffalo. 1. you just paid benford 2. you just invested a 1st rounder in Max 3. Jaire probably isn't signing for 1 year So if you sign him, you basically are benching your first round pick for multiple seasons

In Canada you can watch every game on DAZN for 30 bucks a month

Great topic. For me it's easily 13 seconds. (Was to young for the Super Bowl days) Other games I can stomach, but that 13 seconds game is even sickening to think about lol

Interesting. I meant like for one year. If I had one year to win a SB, I would confidently take Stafford. But you're right, there's a massive drop off after the top 4 and there's really not much of a difference from the 5th-12th QBs

Ya that's fair. He definitely puts up big numbers and he's coming off his best year. Numbers at times can be deceiving though. ( Tua as an example when he put up over 4600 yards one year ) But no way I would take him over Stafford, Hurts and Herbert. Then he's probably in the 8-12 range. (At least in my opinion)

The Baker mayfield love has been crazy to me this off season. I think Joe Marino had him as his 5th best QB in the league. Baker is a good QB, but top 5 seems like a huge stretch IMO

With the bills struggles to get off the field on 3rd and 4th downs, I hope this doesn't become a rule lol. Josh Allen wouldn't see the field all game

Fair enough- But we all watched that game. And he was horrible. Point being: All great quarterbacks have had games where they played like trash and their team still won

Underrated one is EJ Gaines. He was really solid in 2017

Well when you imply he was on pace for over 1600 yards, you kind of are impying what his numbers would be. Or else, what's the purpose of saying he was on pace for over 1600 yards? Anyways, all good. My point is a 3 game sample size is wayyyy to early to say he is on pace for X amount of yards. I agree he is a good player, not denying that.

if you don't think goff is good, that's fair and I respect your opinion even though I respecfully disagree with it. I just don't understand why you are trying to prove that Goff gets carried by his team because of one game detroit won in which he was horrible. (That is cherry picking to try to prove something, as there are far more examples in which Goff has had to play great for Detroit to win) Every single good to great QB has had awful games where their team has still won. (Yes even Josh Allen as I showed)

You said exactly this: "He was on pace for over 1600 yards and 11 TDS". That's the definition of projecting numbers, sir.

I'm still not sure why you're drilled towards that one game where Goff played horrible and they won. Last season there were 4-5 examples where Goff needed to play great to get the win, and they did win, or his defence let him down in a shoot out. Josh Allens stats against Atlanta in January 2022: 11 for 26 for 120 yards, 0 tds and 3 INTS. But the Bills won by 2 touchdowns- So are we going to define one game as "the bills carry Josh Allen?"

I think he's a good player and I agree with that . But you can't project 3 games to 17 lol

But you're isolating one incident where Goff played crap and his team won in spite of him. What about his offence needing 34 points against GB to win by 3? Or 40 points against SF to win a one score game? Or losing with 42 points against the Bills?