Pine Barrens Mafia

That whole team is full of scumbags. We need an enforcer on each side of the ball for those situations. See: incognito, Richie

Who in their right mind is trading for miller

think this thread can be safely stuck into bed

Don't care. They need to figure out a way to make that happen, he's dead weight at this point

That's a whole other problem, I agree.

I keep telling people he's washed. Brandon Beane's career will likely die because of that error. What a waste. Yes, well, that would be ideal. But I don't trust Pegula to pull the trigger. He's gutless.

That's the sandwich. I think they have to eat it. If they're paying it either way, I'd rather have a young guy in that spot who can actually contribute.

numbers and eye-test don't match once again. He was electric in weeks 2,3,4,5. Was not in 1,6,7,8 and 9. Think the numbers are skewed by the 4 good weeks.

Von Miller Tre White Dawson Knox In my eyes, you can do one of three things: 1) Ride them out, be mediocre because you don't have any cap space to work with, pray to God you get some kind of production out of them 2) Burn them all after this season, eat the same cap ***** sandwich and emerge in a much healthier place in 2025 3) Cut two of three of them, triage-style, still eat the cap ***** sandwich and be better off in 2025 Are there any other options out there? I'm happy to hear them.

Exactemente. This team is *****. Short-and-medium term *****. It would probably be better to blow it up and start from scratch than gimp through a defensive rebuild, take a 3-4 win season next year and emerge in 2025 in a much more tenable position.

Odd that the Chiefs haven't had a down season in the time that mahomes has been there

hate to break it to you, this IS a drought-level team atm

It's also a talent issue, which i doubt will be resolved in the offseason. I've said it elsewhere, people had better get used to the idea that this team is floating around .500 for the next few years if no substantive changes are made in the administration of this team (FO and coaching). I've got no faith that these guys will be able to wrangle themselves out of the cap hell that bringing in 8 billion year old Von Miller caused. That's an albatross that'll take them both down, imo

Gonna be like taking candy from a child

Absurd, that's how that is. This team shouldn't be favored in any game the rest of this year.

he's like a whipped dog. they've been hammering on him since he was a rookie not to run, not to play loose. stay within structure, and he's JUST NOT THAT KIND OF A QB.

Did he though? He's never been fantastic at reading defenses pre-snap

This is why I'm arguing for a total reset. This team is staring down the very real barrel of .500-ish football for this season, next and possibly the year after.

Yup. I've given up on him growing beyond what he is.

Agree to disagree. Josh has the physical tools to be best all-time. Mentally, he's not it, though.

Exactly. Josh is a good QB. He's not GREAT, but he has stretches where he is. Just hasn't happened lately.

No, I won't. I see the writing on the wall. I just said I think they'll win 8.

I never, ever, EVER want to go back to another extended stretch of near .500 football, no matter what it takes. I want this team to either be excellent, or dreadful.

Then I say enjoy the mediocre future. Because that's what's on the horizon. I'll say the bills win 8 this year. Then the rationale will be "oh the injuries." So they'll bring McDermott and beane back. Then they'll probably draft a CB and Safety in the first couple rounds and we'll start all over with another 8-9 win season next year. That's not unrealistic

I'm not locked on Williams.