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he did, man. he was in control first half, went to ***** in the second, there's no debating that. well, i mean i suppose someone of YOUR illustrious intelligence could debate a 17/21 start, but whatever. facts are facts.

Who's we?

We haven't agreed on a lot in the past, but we damned sure agree on this. The plan was working, in the first half, allen was completing passes at a 70% clip, with only the one egregious error. Then his head ensconced itself firmly in the backside and he lost the script

Rose-colored glasses, PLENTY of terrible games by allen with daboll around.

Give us your next 10 firsts and you've got a trade.

Correct. He lacks the ability to be patient.

I'll say it again, he was doing the right thing and generally playing well in the first half. Then he ***** himself. That's the problem with Josh. He ***** himself. Often.

yahtzee

If I knew that, I'd be running the franchise. Honestly, thought Josh should have been benched last night. He was CLEARLY off the rails. YES. Exactly.

i think that's a bit of rose-colored glasses speaking there. There were MANY games under daboll where Josh went off the reservation like he did last night. It is who he is.

Dorsey had the plan, and it was working. The short game was there all night. Problem is, Josh just CAN'T be patient enough to work that plan. He NEEDS to hit big passes for some reason

Josh is going to hero ball, regardless of the play structure. Period. It's who he is and anyone denying that at this point is living a lie. Edit: I too thought he should have been benched after the fumble.

The problem is: Other than benching Allen, how do you hold him accountable? What coach in the NFL is going to do that?

Blind squirrels and nuts

Joe DiBiase says so? Well, then that settles it. Tell me, was it Dorsey's fault that Josh turned down an easy 15 yard gain on the ground to throw instead a hail mary into triple coverage that ended up picked off?

cool, see you later Well, in fairness, also completely crushed the Jets' season hopes a minute into the game, so there's that

apparently, you're having a hard time understanding my question. if the plays are there to be made, but the qb chooses not to take them...how is that on the coaches? The coaches are there to give the play. It's on the player to execute the play.

I don't think he can. He is what he is.

That literally makes no sense. If you call the plays, and the plays are open but the quarterback doesn't execute the plays, what is the coach gonna do? Climb down out of the booth an run them themselves?

his first half was really good. The second, not so much. I'm not a fortune teller, and neither are you.

It was working, the QB abandoned ship when he didn't need to

That ain't on the coaches

He needs neutering

Ever own a horse? Like people, some horses are just ignorant #######s, and are just gonna do whatever they want

It's the QB. Sacred cow around here, I know, but Josh Allen has been in the league long enough to know: 1) you can't be late over the middle 2) you shouldn't throw into triple coverage 3) that sometimes a sack and punting the ball away isn't a bad thing. And yet he continues to make those mistakes. Tell me, at what point should the finger of responsibility be pointed at the QB who just crapped his pants on national TV? You can lead a horse to water, but if it does not drink, it's on the horse.