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With QBs it’s height, throwing in tight windows with enough speed , and system fit toward their strengths. WR… route running , going against better CBs. Can’t catch/ jump hard balls remember the football is different. on defense it’s all about system fit beyong the size/ speed issues you see this in other sports where players seemed to excel at lower levels but they aren’t better at the pros. In hockey/baseball you see this with AHL/ AAA league play. The veterans on these clubs still make upper middle class wages or more. It’s hard to explain because you see them do well at this level but it does not translate. Sometimes it can be situational due to depth. In hockey a player may be more of a scoring top 5 forwzrd but if the team is set they don’t have a chance. Now with costs where only the stars get the money you tend to get players in baseball/ hockey where they are cheaper under team control but they areNt good enough for that big contract and the team could replace them with new youth. In football this translated to 3rd/4th yr vets walking and going to other teams

As I mentioned in a different thread, I think WRs or going to be like RBs with high turnover and replacemrnt with low cost vets unless they have multiple facets of what’s wanted such as 1. speed 2 route running all over the field 3 short quickness 4. short separation bursts like on short routes or running with the ball 5 jumping ability 6.catch in traffic 7. hands/ reach to catch when they aren’t thrown perfectly or catch one handed 8. adjusting routes to cobversgevor how the ball changes in air many tr rivers might have only a few of these while the perfect one has it all. Only those perfect receivers should see this high money i don’t feel Higgins has these all.

I couldn’t find a good thread about this topic. I’ve seen this week talk about Steelers and what they will do at QB between the two QBs they had or sign Rodgers or Darnold. I think nobody wants Rodgers because he comes with a posse and will want too much money. Looking at Darnold going to the Steelers—. In 2024 he played in grnerally good weather through the year. His cold city starts was the weekend before thxgvg in Chicago and December in seattle. Neither were below freezing iirc. Thry went to Green Bay early. They played in nashville and jacksonville and played at his TA in week 1. I would still have a concern on him playing in cold/ high wind games. there has been speculation on the Rams trading/ releasing Stafford because of cap reasons. does the bengals tag Higgins?

it’s possible. im not local to buffalo so I don’t know how much of a public speaker he is its hard for active athletes to host in season. It would be in the spring. I don’t much on his fiancée work and woukd she be a host and thrn bring him with her

Washington had no depth. Needed players to play. buffalo is a much deeper team. Draft picks don’t necessarily taking starting jobs

I’ve said this before, WRs are going to be like RBs where they can easily get replaced this not investing like the 11%+ of cap space you mention unless they are the dream receiver that fits multiple receiver roles like (1) deep threat, (2) catch in tight quarters, (3) level of quickness to side step coverage/ tacklers, (4) can run over hr middle, (5) break tackling ability, (6) has the sorter term high gear to create space some WRs might get more if the team is on a rookie contract for a QB

I’d be instead targeting folks who want to prove it contracts ( not coming off them) these are some of the back ups/ secondary players on other teams or thise who got injured last year these players can sign for a low/ bonus contract. They will be playing for a team who will be features tv game for about 11 weeks during the season National tv games ( include primary 425 Sunday ( Cincinnati, KC, houston, Philadelphia , Baltimore, Miami ( both) , jets, Steelers, Tampa bay. Atlanta) Lead 1 pm patriots, jets, Carolina

The only way I see it happening is a player for player trade

I’d sign Tre and DE chase young to low incentive driven contracts

I wonder what the real reason is. He’s been with the current staff for a while and pre-dated thrm. The team was pretty healthy. all I can think of is they found something was mis diagnosed with Kincaid/ Coleman or there was some major disagreement that came up behind the scenes recently that might not have anything to do with his job.

I still don’t see it unless they sacrifice elsewhere and cut vets You are still going to pay back in some future year if you pay now.

in reading around I’ve seen some early nfl team forecasts one article by CBS had minnesota, Washington, Pittsburgh, denver, Indianapolis as seeing their record fall minnesota issue is who is the QB and how they do. Washington was a team that gained a lot of confidence where many games came down to the final few minutes if not the final play. It’s so true how the was- chi Hail Mary game changes season results. Pittsburgh also has the QB issue and winningbto many close games. Denver on the other hand went 1-6 in one score game so they could be better next year with roster improvements. With Indy, Richardson he has played about a full season of games— can he get better? what matters in change from season to season… 1. Roster changes— Free agency and who got drafted/ signed and player development. Do teams address their shortages. A few young players on PS or mainly ST make a big step and be a regular player and improves the team. Some high picked rookies take a full year to develop or you had that rookie/ 1 yr blow out their knee lost for season early. 2. schedule differences— From year to year teams change what 3 divisions they play. A subset of this us who you have st home vs road. Based on 2024 schedule pairs that finished 1&2 in their division…Bills/ Mia, kc/LA, rams/ sea, Phil/ was, hou/ Ind so it can matter if you have to play both on the road vs both at home in 2024 both south divisions were the weakest overall while a-west and n-north were the best NFC West in 2025 play both south divisions. Don’t be surprised if that division has 3 teams in the playoffs. playing hard teams at home and weaker teams on the road can adjust teams record by a few games than if it was reversed such as a 3-1 vs 1-3 record in the div-div play. If you do this with both divisions could swing a team from 2-6 to 6-2 in these games 3. Close games— this can lead to early season confidence if you are an upstart team winning, or it can kill an early season favorite. Teams can build from this if they play well late in the season or you play close against good teams.Outliers in this have either more than half the games or if the difference between wins and loses is more than 2. Teams range from 7-12 games that were 8 pts or less outliers are — we heard all season about KC being 11-0. Some others of note are Philly 8-2, SF 2-6, Chicago 2-7, min 8-1, ny giants 1-9 , was 8-3. In the afc den 1-6, cin 4-7, JAX 3-8: Indy 8-4. houston went 6-5, ATL 6-6…with Atlanta they go 9-3 they are the div winner and a respected team. Chicago vs Washington 2-7 vs 8-3. Small margin difference and chicsgo could be in the WC hunt. With a rookie QB this year, the team could make strides snd be in the playoff battle. 4. injuries in 2024 seriously affected team performance. San Francisco, Jacksonville, Miami, and Dallas are teams that jump out the latter 3 had time without their starting QB. SF had other injuries. 5 schedule oddities ….sometimes this could kill a team early with a tough schedule or build confidence. Pittsburgh had a weaker start of the season schedule where they avoid divisional play and kc and PHL until second half of the season. Had these been spread out over the course of the season they might have been sitting around 500 for much of the season, this also might have pushed some of their early wins over den, la to later where they might not have won. Every year you usually get 2-3 teams that make the playoffs that didn't the year before and on the flip side others get kicked out.

Hard to say how history could have changed….. First off Buffalo is a top 10 media market in the US if you add the Canadian population. If buffalo built a new stadium in the mid 1960s the expos could have bern playing in buffalo. Business might have come to buffalo being a 4 team market. East of welland canal might have gone through a major development taking some of torontos growth away WNY should have women’s hockey and soccer team. They could have a women’s basketball team. arrant football could go to Rochester or Syracuse

I disagree on the last part. I don’t see how the Bengals could keep both WRs snd Burrow under standard vet contracts without sacrificing other positions. it coukd be done on a short 1-2 year period if there was an age gap like chase was 30+ with 2 years left and Higgenscwas coming off a rookie contract with the intention of letting chase walk/ retire. the other time it might work for 1-2 yrs is if you have a young D on rookie contacts( 8 of core 13) and 4 or other 5 are on $5M and under vet contracts. You have a DE/edge getting paid.4 of the 8 are on 1st round contracts. You have a very good D so you see 3 of them are going to get paid high money. You are using this extra cap space to cover the excess in WRs.

I’ve not studied Lawrence in his style and system fit to say is the mistakes on him or the coaches in terms of QB jobs outB there…… need vet ( win now mode) raiders Steelers browns Giants Vikings Fins ??? still waiting on youth to fully develop or need to draft it e ause of an older QB Colts jags titans jets pats giants Vikings bears Seahawks Rams Saints panthers