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we need a veteran QB to start. the rookie will be waiting in the wings and hopefully won't have to play at all in 2018. because of that, you are obviously not trading away your entire draft to move up to get one of these guys. we are not rebuilding and starting from scratch so that would be counter-productive. 3 QB's will be off the board before we even pick. that brings us to the 2nd tier of QB's. based on his size and success in college, Mason Rudolph in the 2nd round makes a lot of sense. he will be the 4th or 5th QB off the board and i would take him over 2-3 of those guys anyhow. he provides the best value and those other guys are going to be projects too so go for the guy with the size and maturity.

Josh Rosen is the only NFL ready QB in the draft. he will go #1. I've been telling you guys for 2 years now. his mechanics are flawless. he makes some dumb throws that he will need to learn not to attempt. you can fix that. you can't drastically change mechanics like coaches and scouts want you to believe. maybe MINOR changes if you work hard at it and get it into your muscle memory but once the bullets start flying and you have a 300 pound DE running full speed at you, you revert back to the way you've always done things pretty quickly. i'll take the guy with the best mechanics every time over a project with poor accuracy, mechanics, or arm strength. with Allen they see a guy that SHOULD be a good QB but guess what, he's not. he's never been a good QB at any level. if you think he's all of a sudden going to get more accurate once he gets to the NFL then you are nuts. if he can't complete passes vs East Podunk University then he's not completing passes against the Seattle Seahawks db's. he's a 3 year project that i don't think will ever pan out. Darnold has a wonky release. every game i've watched of his he has had a strip fumble because he has the ball low and to the side. NFL players know to go for that ball every time. he does have good size and a quick release but there's no way they are fixing that arm angle. i see him as a game manager at the next level. he will stay in school. he wants a championship and a heisman. he is young and has a lot left to accomplish. perhaps if we don't get someone this year he will be a consideration for us next year. he should be the consensus #1 QB on the board by then though. Mayfield is a midget. he's listed at 6'1" but there's no way he is even 5'11". he was the same size as Flutie on the heisman stage and Doug is in his 50's now so he's probably even shorter than he was when he was playing. he has spunk and he's exciting so I know a lot of people like him because of that, but he's going to have a really tough go of it at the next level and given his mental makeup is he humble and hard working enough to work through it or is he going to lose it like Manziel and whip people off and grab himself and escape the pressure by partying too much? too many red flags with this guy. he wouldn't even be a consideration for me in the 1st round but some team will be desperate enough to take him, i just hope it isn't us. Lamar Jackson, just say no. we have had 3 years of Tyrod and this would definitely not be an upgrade. he's built like a toothpick and he's a running QB. he might be exciting when he scrambles but he doesn't have the accuracy to be a pocket passer. you can't run away from guys in the NFL like you can in college. everyone is fast and athletic. running QB's never last long at the next level. you take too many hits and you are done (RG3). he would be a pretty good WR. maybe he will eventually change like the Ohio St QB's have in the past. Rosen is the clear #1. he will go to Cleveland or NY. out of who i would want for us, i would say none of the above. go to the senior bowl, work with Mason Rudolph, see if there is any way he could work under center. i just think he is too similar to the Jets backup QB's and he has a long way to go before he can start in the NFL. i would expect us to draft someone as a project plus get a veteran that can start right away so as far as projects go I don't think there is much of a difference between Allen and Rudolph except that Rudolph has had success at the position and will be a better bargain as a 2nd round pick.

what a shame. hopefully the Baltimore fans have dinner reservations and can't make it to the game

You guys are funny. Darnold is staying in school. If you are watching this game you will see why. He has a long way to go and a lot left to accomplish. Rosen is ready now, day 1 starter. Nobody else in this draft is as NFL ready. I also like Rudolph over Allen

I'm sure your car will still be there after you get back from the game...maybe.

1 hit wonder on a very good team. No thanks. Reminds me of the 1 good year Fitz had with us so we signed him to the big contract that he could never live up to because he's not very good.

Oh we are just supposed to give up. Gotchya. Do you ever watch football? So when it's 2nd and 25 you should just get the punter ready right? Handing the ball off up the middle to a FB/fat running back that's good for 1-2 power yards is the worst play I could think of in that situation. The defense is going to give you 10 yards underneath every time in that situation. You throw a crossing route under the coverage and pick up half of the yards to make it a manageable 3rd down

I win. /thread

2nd and 25 against the defending world champs and he has them hand the ball to Tolbert for a hard fought 0 yard gain. Rico should have been immediately escorted from the field and his office cleaned out. He will unfortunately survive because his out is he will blame it all on bad QB play. And unfortunately for us we all know this isn't the only reason why. His play calling is atrocious. We are in for another bad offensive season next year.

i have inside sources too. i can't tell you anything other than FOLLOW THE DOTS

This is correct. His throwing motion is all sorts of screwed up. I was watching him and he had the ball stripped fairly easily. Just imagine once NFL level defenders see that. They will be going for the ball every time he drops back

People close to Darnold already said he is staying in school. He needs more time to develop. Rosen is a day 1 starter physically. Best pocket passer in many years. Mentally, who knows. He's immature and his family is already wealthy. He could play a couple of years and say this is boring I'm going to run for congress instead. He doesn't need the game and his interests are elsewhere. I dont think the Bills will give up their entire draft for either player. They would be more inclined to go after a veteran QB. Alex Smith, Cousins, Bradford have been mentioned as possible targets.

Why didn't you guys donate to my go fund me? Tolbert is trash. It was the right thing to do

Terry vs the NFL:

we tried that with McCoy and he used us to drive up his price with Denver. coaches don't look fondly at a situation like ours with no QB and our best player is a 30+ yr old RB. we won't get the cream of the crop here. we go for the 2nd tier coaches and overpay

just checking in to see if we signed Cousins yet. 12 first round picks and a $150 million contract is all it will take. a contract like that for a very mediocre player would absolutely destroy this franchise. there's a reason why Washington hasn't signed him long term

he will be a HC or retire. he's paid his dues as a OC for too long to step back down imo i highly doubt that would happen but if for some reason it did i doubt he would pick Buffalo. he would be the most sought after OC in the league this is probably true. they will give Dennison 1 more shot with a real QB. he will use Tyrod as a scapegoat to save his own job. then once we are bad again with ____________ then he will be out of excuses

when business decisions trump football decisions. Brady is a cash cow for Kraft and he is going to ride that wave as long as possible. this will of course mean the end for Belichick with no plan B for the post Tommy era. i would expect them to draft a QB this year in possibly the 1st or 2nd round and they do have ammo to trade up if a QB drops which would show just how desperate Billy B is

good coach, too bad they missed their window to get it done in Az

As for the drops, he seems to be getting out physicalled out there. he needs to hit the weight room in the offseason. it's a big step from a small college program to the NFL. he might not have been prepared physically for the challenge. hit the weights, become more physical, get a better QB and then lets see where he's at I must have missed this great pro bowl season that Sammy Watkins never had. the 4th overall pick in the draft better make multiple pro bowls and yet here we are

if you have Tom Brady throwing you the ball then even Chris Hogan looks like a pro bowler. if you have Tyrod throwing you the ball then good luck. in the NFL you never get wide open so you need a QB that can fit it into those tiny windows when you do get a little separation. hard to evaluate a WR when you don't have a QB that can get them the ball.

right away as in year 1. they had Goff on the bench for a few games and people were freaking out and they had to play him. you can't have a QB sitting on the bench and developing. they need to play. drafting a later round guy in hopes he will develop does not work and nobody does that. they are either good right away or they flame out and the main reason is because you can't carry a guy that can't play on your roster, there's not enough spots. if they see they stink right off the bat then they are quick to cut them loose (Cardale). which is really too bad because at 21-23 yrs old who can really say they were the best versions of themselves at that point in their lives? if the Bills get a veteran starter or stick with Tyrod and then also draft a QB, how much longer do you think Peterman has? no time to develop. you either do well right off the bat when you get your shot or you are on your way out of the league. it happens that fast

who is our QB?

The Bills need a QB? This is groundbreaking stuff. Tell me more

Jerry Hughes more trouble than he's worth when he's not sacking the QB. I could see them moving on from him but man we would REALLY have zero pass rush at that point. No Dareus, no Hughes, no Kyle. Our defense would be gutted at that point