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I don't wish injury to anyone... but...it would be a shame if Watson had a Bo Jackson type injury and then Cleveland was paying someone $47 mil per year to sit at home. 5 years is a long time. This guy is a few more massage parlor trips away from spending a bulk of that time in prison

Your friend can use Roethlisberger as a use case for best case scenario for Watson. Stay out of trouble, win a Superbowl (or two), donate to some charities, get married and have some cute kids, have a long solid career, and most people will forget how much of a dirtbag you were in your 20's. Just another dumb kid right? How ironic that Cleveland is turning into the one thing they hate the most...the Steelers!

Yes good distinction thanks. I just keep thinking back to the OJ case because that was the first trial I had ever seen and it was someone I had heard of and how it really rocked my world with all of the factors involved. I couldn't wrap my head around the fact that someone who had clearly just murdered 2 people was found innocent. But the high priced defense attorneys created DOUBT in the jurors minds: 1. Yes it's true that racism exists and Rodney King had happened among other things so maybe the cops were racist? 2. If the glove does not fit you must acquit! Wow, that's all it took for the jurors to doubt the events. I remember thinking you can get away with anything then. How do they convict anyone? I suppose this system is better than "you are guilty now prove your innocence" or "you are guilty because I said so" but clearly there are some shortcomings and just because you are found "not guilty" doesn't mean you are innocent.

The burden of proof is on the prosecution to convict. They must prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that something happened. Sometimes DOUBT is all that needs to be proven, not innocence. Whether that is the best system or not I will trust your research into the subject. However it certainly lends itself to fallacy. There is going to be a gray area where certain truths may be accepted but not prosecutable. In a he said she said (she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said) case, in such a unique situation where there are no cameras allowed in the room, it makes it quite difficult to come up with enough evidence to prove guilt and just enough gray area to allow for doubt. He may not be proven guilty in a court of law but morally speaking this is very likely not an innocent man and he is now the face of an entire franchise and the highest paid QB in the world in terms of guaranteed money. He got to go to a better team and got a huge pay raise and meanwhile there are 22+ women who now have to watch their backs and many of whom will likely need to find a new profession. The whole thing feels very wrong to me and I don't doubt that a lot of Cleveland fans, especially females, aren't happy about this.

Back to football...the funny thing is before all of this I would say Cleveland was the 4th best team in the AFC North. Now they are maybe the 3rd best team in the North, not even top 5 in the AFC let alone the NFL. Was it worth it? Unless they win a Superbowl I'd say definitely not. Feels like they sold their soul for 2 more wins.

I see a lot of people saying there's a lot of sleazeballs in the NFL. That doesn't make it right. Or that they are warriors so we can't expect them to act like choir boys off the field. Bad take. This is not some random player on their team, this is their QB, the FACE of their franchise! He's going to be on the billboards and advertisements and commercials. He now represents the entire city of Cleveland. Gross. Think of how much we see Josh in the public eye. Now imagine if he was likely a serial sexual predator. It would be pretty uncomfortable to root for a team like that. But hey, as long as they win a few more games right?

Definitely not an innocent man, just not enough evidence to convict. He's a sick individual. Read the sports illustrated article. Do you think OJ didn't do it too? If it was your wife or girlfriend or sister who was sexually assaulted I bet you would feel much differently

the DIVISION? the Bills need HOMEFIELD ADVANTAGE. the division should be 6 easy wins towards that

It's fine and dandy that everyone and the wives get along but if Josh tries to jump over someone and is out 4 games we are most likely going 1-3 or 0-4 with Barkley and losing homefield. Money Mitchy Biscuits probably got us to at least 2-2 or 3-1. Nothing exciting here from a football perspective

Weak if true

Are there any young folks on this board that can explain the TikTok dancing thing? Is that considered "cool" these days? "Back in my day" I believe you'd get your @$$ kicked for doing something like that, man

Edmunds is playing out of position. I think he could be a Von Miller type pass rusher. It's clear that he's not a 4-3 MLB. Before they give up on him they should let him rush the passer from the edge this year. He has the speed and the length and it looks like he has some bend because every time he gets blocked he folds up like a cheap tent

who is this mysterious figure lurking in the night?

"it's not about money" *Here's some money* "SOLD!"

Would be funny if after all of this Watson goes to NFC and Baker plays out his contract with Cleveland gets booed out of the stadium all season

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Omg he has a pic of Coy Wire as his avatar. If you are going to be a fake NFL insider at least have a better fake alias than that

He meant to say Bills Twitter* had shown strong interest in McCaffrey. I hope McBeane wouldn't be dumb enough to trade for that salary

Props to Wiseman. It's not that big of a town, people talk, not that hard to believe. Buffalo (especially OP/Hamburg/Aurora) is unique in that it is small and the players live among us. Josh Allen's new house is on my road. Tre White used to live in the same development as my cousin. I hear things and don't post them because I'd rather not get my head bitten off if for some reason it doesn't happen. People need to be a little more accepting. Just say ok thanks for the info, let's see if it happens, and then go on with your day. We might be missing out on some good info if people are scared to post

I think they got 2 starters and 2 solid backups out of this draft. When you are a team that's in the final 4 the year before it's hard to find players that can even make your roster let alone get a lot of playing time. This year we need DL and CB help and I'd like them to get a McKenzie type speedster and a short yardage RB

Let's see a post dated before 4/26/18 with that pic

You are sighting a previously debunked rumor that started on Reddit. Darnold was #1 for the Bills and Josh was #2 and a more likely option as pretty much everyone thought Darnold would go #1. Giants and Jets both had Darnold 1st too but Giants had Barkley and Chubb 1 and 2 and felt like Barkley was a hall of famer and couldn't be passed up. At the time Beane said he wouldn't get into the draft board but that Josh was one of their top guys. If he was #1 don't you think he would say we got our #1 player on the board? We all praise Beane for being a genius now but he would have gone with Darnold if he was there. The entire NFL would have

If Sam Darnold was outright cut and was cheap I think Beane would jump at getting him. He was the #1 QB on their board

I'm not sold on LA but it appears they have a clear advantage on paper with their pass rush and Cinci not having the best O-Line. Tough call in this one

Rodgers, Watson, Jimmy G, Trubisky, Wentz. Could be a lot of starting QB's shuffling this year. Trubisky will have his opportunity to go somewhere