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They hurt their chances at rebuilding over the years by trying to win with bad players. Thats how you go .500 +-1 game year in and year out. Never good enough to win, never bad enough to draft great players at the top. Just hovering in the middle

The goal is to win the Superbowl isn't it? Or do you get a trophy for barely making the playoffs?

We won the super bowl? Where's our Lombardi? Yea sorry I won't be replying to you anymore. If you can't have an intellectual conversation with someone without swearing and name calling I don't have time for you. Good luck in life you sound like a winner.

if there was a forum like this 50 years ago I would say holy crap you just invented the internet congratulations

It's not about tanking it's about rebuilding. Get rid of all players with value and try and find young cheap players. They dipped their toe in but didn't jump in. You can't rebuild and build a winner at the same time. Those are conflicting goals. You have to choose one or you won't be successful at either

Nice comeback. We had the drought because we had 17 yrs of just trying to barely make the playoffs. Last year was no different. .500 team +-1 game. Same thing year in and year out. Snooze

And we may miss out on him and other good QB's which is why I voted the way I did in the drought thread

Peterman is safe on the practice squad. Not a big market for QB's who have almost as many completions to the other team as their own

I'm glad you guys had your fun with the weak playoff game with 3 points scored. When you see Sam Darnold or Josh Rosen in the HOF will you feel the same way? We weren't a good team, there was no reason to try and win year 1 with a bunch of bad players

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the Jets trade up was just a smoke screen so they can collect more picks to move back out

new offense, new defense, not very much talent on the roster, big year for QB's in the draft. everyone knows what category i fall into

whatever team i get will be trading back so the Bills can move up to get a QB

CollegeFootball 24/7‏Verified account @NFLDraft 1h1 hour ago More "Josh Allen is the best quarterback in this draft." - NFC executive #SourcesTellUs: http://on.nfl.com/9z2Giz (via @LanceZierlein) 29 replies27 retweets73 likes

Or so Jets hopefully!

that's right and he went #1. let's hope Allen generates the same kind of buzz

Thanks, I'm po'

can you list the rankings? most people aren't dumb enough to pay for "insider access"

it is when it's someone like Josh Allen who has the talent to put on a show. i've never heard the crowd at the combine react at all before and they were oohing and ahhing at his throws. like i said, an impressive enough day today and he might be in the discussion as the first overall pick which would really shake up the draft. at the very least he might generate enough buzz to propel himself up the draft board to teams picking before us and the result will be some of the more popular QB's falling to us. as Bills fans we should be rooting for him today

There are other threads on the topic but this very well may be a monumental day for our franchise so I felt as though it deserved its own thread. Why is this day so important? Today, the draft's most polarizing prospect will be on display at Wyoming's Pro Day: Josh Allen. He has the natural talent that makes scouts and GM's pants tight. He is still very much in the discussion at #1 and a big day today could have huge ramifications for our draft. Pros: As we saw at the combine, Allen has the "wow factor" that really pops in person. He's huge at 6'5" 240 with over 10" hands. To go with that size, he has impressive athleticism that will also be on display. It is believed he will run a 4.6 in the 40 (he ran 4.76 at the combine). When you see him live, you can't help but be impressed. The ball whizzes through the air and there is an audible pop when it hits the receivers hands. He can easily throw 80 yards in the air and we have all seen the video of him throwing it 50 yards from his knees and hitting the goalpost. When you put it all together, it's quite the impressive product. Will it be enough to impress Cleveland at the top of the draft? Cons: On the other side of the discussion, Allen seems to have just as many detractors as he does supporters. He checks all of the boxes of a franchise QB except for when it comes to putting it all together on the field. He has struggled at times with accuracy, decision making, and interceptions. Scouts will tell you that his struggles are a result of not having a supporting cast around him and Allen trying to do too much on his own. Wyoming obviously doesn't get the best of the best when it comes to recruiting. Allen himself was not highly recruited coming out of high school and had to go the Junior College route before landing at Wyoming, his only full-ride D1 offer. But when you draft a player that high, you want to see a good history of success at the position. It's widely believed that accuracy is a big indicator of success at the next level and Allen's career 56% completion percentage leaves a lot to be desired. Typically 60% is the cutoff. There are examples of QB's with poor completion percentage having success in the NFL (Favre, Vick) but the majority flame out. His decision making has also been an issue. For every big play, there seems to be two plays that leave you scratching your head wondering "what the heck was he thinking?" During his junior year, 4% of his passes were intercepted. Lucky for him, he throws the ball so hard that a lot of the int's were dropped. He might not be so lucky at the next level. Draft Ramifications: Despite some of the knocks against him, Josh Allen just looks the part of an NFL franchise QB. He has the prototypical traits that teams, especially cold weather teams, look for. It is believed that Sam Darnold was able to solidify the top spot in the draft with an impressive Pro Day on Wednesday, but a lot of draft analysts say that it's not a done deal and with a big day Josh Allen might still be in that conversation. Allen definitely has the talent to really put on a show today and it will be interesting to see how it goes. Be sure to tune in to NFL Network at 2pm to see for yourself! Let's just imagine a scenario where Josh Allen absolutely blows people away today. Cleveland may decide this kid is far too talented to pass up at 1. With Tyrod at QB, they may feel they have the time to develop Allen and they may decide that the risk is well worth the reward. A decision like that would send shockwaves throughout the entire draft. Now Darnold and Rosen, who many feel are the top two QB's, are pushed down the draft board. With Darnold available at 2, is that enough to entice Beane to go all in and make the deal with the Giants? It would be costly, possibly 3x #1 picks. Or perhaps Rosen is their target and they are now able to get him at pick #4 in a trade with Cleveland. It would still be costly but not nearly as costly as going to #2. That would represent a tremendous value to be able to get the QB that many feel is the best in the draft at pick 4. Or maybe Beane lets it play out and the Broncos pick Mayfield over Rosen and then he is available at 6 and maybe it only costs your 1sts and one of your 2nd's to get him. Or if you are a Mayfield fan, with Rosen sitting there at 5 that might be too attractive for the Broncos to pass up and so Mayfield falls. The possibilities are endless but the fact of the matter is that as Bills fans we should all be rooting for Josh Allen today. If a lot of the mock drafts are to be believed, he very well may be our next QB. At the very least he might be attractive enough to other teams where they decide he is worth the risk and then other more popular options fall to us. Be sure to tune in to NFL Network at 2pm to watch it live. It should be quite the show!!!

a lot of people have Josh Allen at 1 or at the very least 2-3. this guy is letting his bias show

These greats probably had way more good throws than bad throws in those games too. Peterman looked completely inadequate. These are not good comparisons

Not entirely true. Pretty much everyone and their mother was at their bowl game including John Elway and tons of other GM's and scouts. Also, obviously everyone was at the senior bowl for the whole week and he met with the team then. They also saw him at the combine and met with him there. There will be scouts there at his pro day today and I'm sure the private workout will be in the next few days where they will also take him out to dinner and really get to know him. Maybe they didn't go to any regular season games but that's not really necessary because there's film and all of these other opportunities to see him live as well

Yikes

did you feel that way when Josh Rosen was tearing things up his freshman year? nobody had even heard of redshirt Sam Darnold back then. he was only playing at USC because Rosen wanted to go to a good school so he turned them down