What a Tuel

If a defensive back is stepping out of bounds as they try to stop a WR from catching a ball and they graze the ball, no one would ever call that an incomplete catch. It is always about the WR and possession inbounds. If a player fumbles the ball, and in trying to recover ball they graze it but their body is out of bounds, for some reason the ball is "out of bounds" through contact. Makes no sense. It should be about when possession is gained, is the player with possession in or out of bounds? I'm open to hearing what type of cans of worms would be opened by allowing that to be the rule? What scenario would occur that would make it so terrible to allow an inbounds player to get possession even though someone out of bounds may have grazed the ball (with their helmet no less)?

The difference is a WR does not have to worry about a defender out of bounds touching a catch making the catch "recovered out of bounds" even though the WR is in bounds and the defender never has possession.

Its a dumb rule. It should be possession unless its the player themselves. isnt there also some version in which you are touching a player who is out of bounds so therefore you are out of bounds too when you touch the ball? This should be something that should be clear for once. Player who possesses the ball must not be touching out of bounds when gaining possession.

@ZerovoltzIf Josh was a fake slide, then this was one too...

If the nearest defender was 7 yards away, why would the defender expect him to slide?

The fact the that official bills page posted that makes it infinitely more hilarious lmao

If whoever the 12th man that wasn't supposed to be on the field gets off the damn field against the broncos, we control our own destiny for the division. Funny how you can probably pinpoint one little thing in every game to say "what if". It is a game of inches after all.

Not sure if its been mentioned in this thread but it isnt exclusive to peacock according to an NBC commercial I saw during the bills game. If you have NBC, it will be on the commercial said. You do not need peacock. https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/buffalo-bills-los-angeles-chargers-peacock-exclusive-nfl/article_36d8863a-9dbb-11ee-af13-ffb55feea892.html Edit: Nevermind, just saw OP is in Rochester market.

Especially after a loss. The fish fans are basically the toxicity of chiefs fans with cockiness with nothing to back it up. At the same time they have a superiority complex because *Miami*.

A lot of those flops, you see the ball well out of Allen's hands and you can see the defender clearly sees it. They want to go for the cheap shot then Allen is free to go for the cheap shot.

No curse for the media? They sabotage the business and hound and hound and hound and hound and hound and hound because it generates a new story. Not only is it "Matt Araiza is in trouble" but then they get to report on the "inaction of buffalo bills management who won't make a snap decision on ruining this kids life" and then pose ridiculous questions like "are the bills putting football over the human rights of an individual" But yeah....alllll of that is just unavoidable "news" coverage. These reporters don't have any skin in the game, no money to be made to spin controversy, not. at. all. Just reporting the facts, those guys are 1st amendment American heroes. The Fourth Estate!

That occurs for every head coach in the NFL. Belichick without Brady is almost gone.

Do we think Joe Brady will run a different offense? How is he expected to put something like that into place? Or do we just fly by the seat of our pants for two weeks and work it out in the bye?

Well there have been opposing defensive players that have made claims of a basic offense which is where I believe people are picking it up from. That and the route trees aren't very creative with wrs bunched together all the time, but I guess that could be the complexity?

He can be unstable behind the scenes all he wants, that is not relevant to the "outbursts" you and I were discussing. All the times he has had "outbursts" have been rational times so no reason to expect any differently now. Hopefully they will work it out now that Dorsey is gone I guess.

Players are saying its too complicated? The general consensus on the board is that it is too bland and basic and defenses key in on it.

In my listed scenarios, what do you want Dorsey to do? More ball control drills for Cook? Handoff drills for Allen? Practicing catching for Davis? The one out of 4 offensive debacles ill give you is Allen throwing into double coverage, because it feels like every Bills WR is double covered which seems impossible.

With a 2-5 conference record that can only improve to 7-5 at best with winning out AFC games, I think we need to rely on the dolphins for their annual collapse. Raiders - W Jets - L Commanders - W Titans - W Jets - W Cowboys - L Ravens - L Bills - L That'll put them at 10-7. Which means we need to win 5 of next 7: Jets - W Eagles - W/L Chiefs - W/L Cowboys - W Chargers - W Patriots - W Dolphins - W Not much room for error.

Since 2018 - 1st Round - 3 Offense / 4 Defense 2nd Round - 3 Offense / 2 Defense 3rd Round - 4 Offense / 2 Defense Seems pretty even to me. You can only ask the defense for so much before they break a little. They played out of their mind. If the offense puts together any semblance of a professional appearance, this would have been a blow out for the Bills.

The idea that they struggled offensively is silly and not accurate. I know people want to call the eye test or whatever, but its just not accurate. The last 8 games they were scoring nearly 30 points a game and went 7-1 (would've been 8-0 without the Allen fumble against the vikings).

This is silly playing with statistics nonsense. I can do it too.

Wouldnt they just run the same offense? Does Joe Brady really have a backup offense to scheme up and run on the fly in week 11 of the season?

Because he goes off the rails at appropriate times. I know the media likes to portray him as a diva, but he went off the rails 1. AFC Conference Championship game 2. 13 seconds loss. 3. Bengals loss. All appropriate times to go crazy trying to rally people during the game, and flying off the handle that we dropped the game afterwards. I wish we had more "divas" like Diggs. Edit: And no, I didn't forget the stupid non-story from a random 3 day minicamp in which he misses the first day, attends the 2nd, and the team cancels the 3rd because it is such a damn important minicamp.

No, but last night was 100000% on the players not executing, so id like to know what broke the camel's back here? Why wasn't he fired after the bengals game?

I'll never understand that. Half the time its an INT if they just turn around! So worried about getting beat they get PI anyway so just turn around!