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There seems to be debate about whether injuring it further is possible. They clearly won't play him if there is risk to injure it further, but if the risk of a tear is the same with the injury and without then he can certainly play.

Yeah, and the jets one he was taking what the jets gave him (Knox) but did not see the defender. The Davis one seemed like a miscommuncation. I think only one of the 4 ints was actually Allen trying to make things out of nothing and messing up.

What do you mean? 2 of the 4 ints were short passes....

There is no way he said this. Quote the actual interview or I don't believe it.

Take away the 2 ints and the 14-3 ends up being a blow out for sure.

The fact that they didn't replay it on TV was a huge indication on how bad of a call it was.

It isn't? Even in your tying scenario which ultimately winning games stops us from tying first and foremost, then common games are just the 3rd tie breaking scenario. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs). Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games. Dolphins lost to the vikings Jets play the Vikings in Dec So although NFC games "in a tie scenario" are less important, they are still common games played.

All they think about is tying lol. The goal is to ultimately have the better record which can only occur if you....win games.

Miami and NYJ do not have the tie breaker over the Bills until the 2nd game is played. In reality the Bills have the edge with one less loss than either. Could that change? Sure. But i can't help but remember this stupid ass clip and think why are Bills fans this way about their own team? (At least these were NE fans). Have some damn hope and stop clinging to some "down to earth" reality about something you can't predict with any kind of accuracy, or you'd be extremely rich on the betting apps.

I've heard every range of "gut feeling" from playing sunday to out for the year. And of course someone is going to be right and say "see i knew it!"

Its off topic but do we really want someone who will lose interest the moment the team faces adversity anyway then? I keep hearing this "shifting to whoever is winning" nonsense and while I can understand money calling, I cant understand that. I don't want that on my team bc what if we have a loss like yesterday and he is here? Drama time?

If you've been on here for years then you'd know the routine for certain posters. They know when to troll like this.

I am not sure how you correct team building philosphy and coaching without making changes to coaching which usually results in rebuild mode. I just don't think its #1 seed or bust for McDermott. I think they have built a successful franchise that so long as it consistently competes, we should let it do its thing. Obviously, the ultimate goal is a super bowl and I think we will get there, but I absolutely don't think our chances get better making such changes.

Bc I snubbed my new salute to service hoodie bc it was green and I ceded the color green to the Jets. Should've worn whatever the heck I wanted.

But we were good enough to win on the road in Arrowhead. We had an epic failure on what should have been a won game. Look I am not arguing that home field advantage wouldn't be beneficial, I am just wondering what you all think the end to the story is if we don't ever get home field advantage? Like OP states, are we burning it all down if we don't?

When did you see this story before? Last year when we got beat by the Jags, or routed by the Colts? I mean....that didnt translate to a lost season but instead we had a good playoff run that ended on a very flukey scenario.

Why would we lose at arrowhead for a 3rd year? We lost one handily. We lost the 2nd one in a tossup. Home field advantage is great and I want it but you guys act like we have zero chance at arrowhead based on a sample size of 2. You forgot how much we are missing Daboll, and Dorsey isnt the guy!

The chiefs did not take away henry. If you are referring to the end of the game, the clock took henry away. They pulled some mahomes bs magic out of their butts along with some bad officiating to pull out the win. 17 carries 115 yards 2 tds 6.8 yards per carry.

Tom Brady threw 4 ints right here in buffalo blowing a 21 point lead... cool he got a couple more tds i guess? T. Brady30-45, 387 YDS, 4 TD, 4 INT

Neither of the interceptions today were bad throws bc of his arm....both were bad throws because Josh didn't see the defense on one and it looks like a communication issue with davis on the 2nd where he cut outside instead of inside. Neither balls got away from Josh.

Tua played against a bears defense that traded away their best defensive player in the offseason and then traded away their 2nd best last week..... If Josh Allen doesn't do the same Christmas Eve then sure, we have an issue.

My wife is a classic overreactor and I told her exactly the above. "I remember we had this precise conversation last year after the Titans/Jaguars/Colts debacles" I don't know if its the anxiety driven side of the Bills fan bases but its like if we aren't blowing people out, we are losers type of mentality that really grate on people who like to think critically but also positively. Edit: I like to add, talk to me how Josh shouldn't have thrown those INTs, or how our WRs are dropping key catches, or how the defense couldn't stop the run on that last drive. But please, please, please don't come at me with "we lost the division", "this isn't a playoff team", "we lost to the Vikings" bull crap.

This is hilarious bc the chiefs fans lord over us for 13 seconds as if they won the damn super bowl but blew 3 score lead and scored 3 points in 2.5 quarters in the AFCCG which in my opinion is a much worse let down.

Jets are on bye next week. Bills can go ahead a game with a win against the Vikings. Dolphins may be in the spotlight but eventually they will play a team they can't beat up on and move out of it. Allowing Justin Fields to carve you up for 32 points is indefensible.

The Bills social media usually makes sense though. They should've saved it for if they beat us in Orchard Park, its going to come back and bite them in the ass.