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Kaepernick and the National Anthem
TakeYouToTasker replied to 26CornerBlitz's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
What's the matter, Kelly? Doesn't fit your narrative so it must be a lie? I was in the parking lot of a bar following an active shooter situation in Tempe, AZ. Several friends and I were forced to the ground at gun point, cuffed, and detained face down on the pavement for about 45 minutes. Told not to move or we'd be shot. You know what's funny though? If you had a cop friend who told you he enjoyed doing that sort of thing to black folks for a good time, you wouldn't lift a finger to put an end to it. -
A few things: - This was an "active shooter" situation. There is no "polite" in an active shooter situation. The police have much more leeway to proceed during the commission of a crime. - Given an active shooter situation, it is very reasonable for law enforcement to profile towards the execution of their objective: to end the shooting threat. - We don't know if Bennett was the only person so detained, and if others were detained, we don't know their racial profiles. - Bennett has no idea what the "white experience" is in these, or any other situations. I have been handled in similar fashion by the police in a similar situation, being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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Kaepernick and the National Anthem
TakeYouToTasker replied to 26CornerBlitz's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Can anyone verify that this didn't happen to any white individuals, or individuals of any other race? It's happened to me before when I've been in the wrong place at the wrong time. How does Michael Bennett know what the "white experience" is in these situations? He doesn't. He's making assumptions from a place of bias. The truth is that police have an authoritarian bent in general, and are given a ton of leeway in this regard (whether right or wrong, or whether or not one agrees that they should have this leeway), and they use it. It's not about black or white, it's about the exercise of the authority of their office. -
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TakeYouToTasker replied to Trump_is_Mentally_fit's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
I'm curious what people making this EPA charge think the EPA does. -
National Anthem (Cameron Jefferson)
TakeYouToTasker replied to bmur66's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
You don't think that "everything" is comprehensive of "names"? Are you !@#$ing slow? -
National Anthem (Cameron Jefferson)
TakeYouToTasker replied to bmur66's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Says the guy who won't even take a stand against the inarguable. -
National Anthem (Cameron Jefferson)
TakeYouToTasker replied to bmur66's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Then you're an enabler and a hypocrite. You're more than willing to sit here condemning others, but completely fail to take any responsibility for your own lack of action when you had the opportunity because it was too hard. And no, I don't have any racists in my life. The fact that astounds you speaks to the company you're willing to keep. And yes, you can do exactly that. You simply choose not to, and then blame others for the worlds problems. People are judged on everything. What I question is that it's evidence of systemic racism. -
National Anthem (Cameron Jefferson)
TakeYouToTasker replied to bmur66's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
No, they haven't that I'm aware of. If they had, they'd no longer be in my life. Odd though, that you've referenced my "pure life" in regards to associating with racists as a perjorative. -
National Anthem (Cameron Jefferson)
TakeYouToTasker replied to bmur66's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
So, what you're saying is that you don't actually have a problem with racists or racism. Strange, that, given your participation in this thread to date. -
National Anthem (Cameron Jefferson)
TakeYouToTasker replied to bmur66's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
I have never encountered anyone in government denying black Americans equal protection under the law because they were black, as you did. Do you think that fact somehow mitigates your lack of action? Does it undo the harm you allowed a government actor to do to black Americans? -
National Anthem (Cameron Jefferson)
TakeYouToTasker replied to bmur66's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
No, you're asking me to believe exactly that. And of course "any" is too much, but I refuse to chase ghosts. As to me being evasive? Hardly. You just didn't like my answers because they require work. -
National Anthem (Cameron Jefferson)
TakeYouToTasker replied to bmur66's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
I don't associate with racists because character is vitally important to me. If I had been in your shoes not only would I have reported him to his supervisor, but also to my representatives in government, and to the local news. Because I'm actually interested in solving real problems of racism when they arise, because it's important. You has the chance to make a meaningful difference, and you took a different path. That's on you. -
National Anthem (Cameron Jefferson)
TakeYouToTasker replied to bmur66's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Of course there are actual racists and actual racism. Case in point: Kelly the Dog's friend. Had that been me I wouldn't have rested until he was ruined, especially working in government. That was an individual racist, and a very solvable problem, as are most individual instances of racism. What you're asking me to believe is that racism is absurdly wide spread, deeply systemic, and is a major driving factor in the employment market. Stop projecting. And no, I'm not being an ass. You had the opportunity to help people and actually take down an actual racist who was doing real harm, and you did nothing, yet here you are casting stones about. That's on you. -
National Anthem (Cameron Jefferson)
TakeYouToTasker replied to bmur66's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
So, you found an actual racist doing actual harm to people, working in government no less, who admitted to you that he didn't honor his obligation under the 14th Amendment to the Constitution, and didn't work to have him exposed and fired because "reasons"? That's the real problem right there. Meanwhile you're up in arms because I refuse to chase ghosts around on lack of evidence. -
National Anthem (Cameron Jefferson)
TakeYouToTasker replied to bmur66's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
And there's the issue. I don't attempt to feel my way through difficult problems, and I don't let ancidotes color my understanding of reality. You want me to believe something, but you want to skip over the part where you have to prove to me that the thing is real, and instead just have me believe your fiat declarations. That's not how reasonable thinking people operate. You may wish to change tact. In fact, if you want to win me over to your argument, you'll need to. And you should want to, because I despise racists, and I want to help you fight them. But first you'll have to offer proof. -
National Anthem (Cameron Jefferson)
TakeYouToTasker replied to bmur66's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Sounds like a ****ty person, and an actual racist. I assume you worked to get him fired for it? -
National Anthem (Cameron Jefferson)
TakeYouToTasker replied to bmur66's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
So you're a true believer, and in addition to that a lousy clairvoyant. I'll ask you to source where I claimed that racism or racists don't exist? -
National Anthem (Cameron Jefferson)
TakeYouToTasker replied to bmur66's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Based on what evidence do you know it's real? Gut feeling and instinct? Are you a true believer? In a world where resumes are no longer filtered and read by people, but rather are filtered through an algorythm, questions related to whether or not a study is valid because it's researchers don't know if the names on the resumes were actually read when their entire premise hinges on whether or not the names on the resumes were actually read is kind of a big deal, don't you think?