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Then why are you continually celebrating the idea? Why do you insist on labeling those who you disagree with politically as deplorable? You are, quite literally, ratcheting up the rhetoric which is driving the divide. The left does not hold a moral high ground. They are not care takers of some special truth, and they do not march towards "progress" with an eye towards being "on the right side of history". All you have are ideas about governing, which differ from the ideas of those on the right. Some are good, or have been historically good. Others are bad, and have been historically tragic. That's it. Where we are now is no different, and I happen to believe, with an eye looking back over my shoulder towards history, that the left is currently revisiting an idea that proved to be a very bad one historically. The politics of division and group identity are dangerous and destructive. They tear down healthy societies, and plunge them into war and poverty. They deny individuals the right to their ideas, and work to silence debate in favor of rigid ideology. This is the way to war.

It's a regional thing, like pop v soda. They're called paddles where I'm from.

I'm 100% with you on this. People laugh at the idea of a civil war, but are ignorant of the past. We're on the precipice, and I'm searching for cooler heads, almost completely in vain.

I don't know. I don't find him to be particularly honest or introspective. I also find it problematic that individuals like him are taking a term used to describe people who are outraged to the point of no-platforming and rioting over the expression of ideas they oppose politically, and applying it to people who are actively being no-platformed, discriminated against, and in some cases assaulted. The next place this goes is going to be very ugly. There are metaphorical powder kegs being built all over this country, and when they start to go off, there is no turning back.

Serious question: Are you hoping to have real violence in the streets? Because that's the way this is trending. Why are you so rapidly working to shed the veil of civility? Why do you now take such issue with the peaceful transfer of power?

Actually, if Obradors wins, I think we'll see our Southern border militarized.

There is going to be a shooting war in this country very soon, and you're the reason. You've shredded the veil of civility, and are becoming violent. I hope you've prepared to reap what you've sown.

"His name was Micharl Cohen. His name was Michael Cohen. His name was Michael Cohen."

A CIA black site used as a protected sanctuary for the global elite because of it's lack of human rights, and the fact that individuals can operate there invisibly.

This isnt a very smart place to take your argument. I'll give you a while to figure out why.

If we're being fair, the alt-right isn't actually on the right. If you look at their policy: They are fully ensconced in identity politics and racial preference (hallmarks of the left). They are heavily pro-union. They believe in a high minimum wage. They believe in nationalized health care. Etc. The alt-right are nothing more than militant, white, disaffected Democrats.

That's the guy!

You're working off flawed assumptions. They were united in the notion that the government should not be involved in the things you've listed. They weren't united in the notion that they should be replaced with something, only that what was done was terrible, and needed to be dismantled. Again, you're asking them to behave like Democrats. They swept into power because the people agreed with them, that these things should be done away with. Again, flawed assumption. The United States was never party to the Paris Climate Accords because the last administration didn't work through the proper channels to become a signator to the treaty. This was one more item in a list of failures of the Obama Presidency. Ending this sham was a net positive for the American economy and for our sovereignty. The deal was not preventing Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons. It empowered the Mullahs, who did exactly as they pleased, oppressed their people, and continued the enrichment process. This is documented. You'll also likely find out, over the coming months and years, that a fair portion of the cash the President illegally gave to the Mullahs made in back into his own pocket in the form of a kickbacks. You mean that they didn't take unConstitutional action to advance an unConstitutional law? I'm sorry we don't live in the dictatorship you wish we did. We live in a Constitutional republic. As such, it's good when our leaders follow the Constitution. Again, we don't live under a dictatorship. We have a legal system through which our policy must be processed. DACA was a gross overstep of executive powers. It's a good thing when the government obeys the law. I understand you have a problem with that, but I'm not interested in living under your dystopian dictatorship. Don't like it? Amend the Constitution and change the law. Again, Republicans are not Democrats. They don't seek top down solutions enforced at the barrel of a gun. The goal was to dismantle the things that were bad, and to force the government back into it's proper Constitutional role. IE. the Legislature is supposed to legislate Yes, it is the responsibility of the Legislature to legislate. It's not the Republican's fault that the Democrats declined to do so, and instead decided to govern illegally by fiat. Perhaps had they done their jobs properly, instead of elevating President Obama to govern by decree, they wouldn't be having this problem. The Legislature is supposed to legislate. Democrats in Congress refuse to do so because they'll lose political cover and be run out of office. It's easier to protect their fiefdoms that way. That's exactly what it's been like for the past 40 years or so, which is why the current President is draining the swamp. The children are finally back in their play pens, and the adults are back in charge. I know it's hard, but please do your best to enjoy this era of prosperity.

The flaw in your logic is that the Republican Party is not a monolith like the Democratic Party. It is a loosely cobbled together coalition formed from disparate groups, linked largely because our two party system would otherwise disenfranchise them, and because they are all ideologically opposed to the platform of the Democrats. Libertarians, social conservatives, the religious right, neo-conservatives, TEA partiers, old guard Republicans, RINOs... They're all under one big tent, but represent very different moral philosophies and beliefs about the proper role of government. Democrats, on the other hand, work in lock step in order to consolidate power, and to use the strong arm of government to bludgeon their political enemies. You're asking that Republicans behave like Democrats. You should know that they won't, because the one thing binding them is that they oppose Democrats. Further, you should be glad that they don't, because having one party that behaves that way is bad enough.

Being a great leader does not require being a great, or even good, person. You said he's a terrible President, not a terrible person. To be honest, neither of us know the man on a personal level, so it's impossible to say if he is what you seem to believe. I've heard mixed accounts, so I'm prone to believe that, like most people, he is a mixed bag of good and bad. He's a flawed human being, just like you and me. But again, we aren't talking about him on a personal level. We're talking about his achievements as a President. - He has facilitated what looks to be the end of the Korean War, and the denuclearization of the DPRK. - He has facilitated the reformation of the Saudi government, leading to a regime that believes in human rights. - He has returned the United States to the Rule of Law, making hundreds of civil libertarian judicial appointments including a SCOTUS seat - He has ushered in a period of nearly unprecedented economic growth and confidence. - He has taken on child sex slavery and human trafficking, waging serious war against the scourge. - He has made unifying the country with American culture and values a central political issue. - He has achieved the lowest levels of black and Latino unemployment in decades Which of these items do you find problematic?

Based on what metric, other than of course your own personal outrage, does President Trump "suck"?

Let's see... there are only 14 million Jews in the world, and of those about 5 million live in Israel, and 7 million live in the US. I'd have to guess that there are many magnitudes more message boards than Jews in the world. This is because message boards are easy to create, and the creation of Jews requires months of Satanic ritual, the spinning of straw into gold, and the more well known 5 years of inter-egg gestation before they are finally hatched. So... what's the math on the percentage of total Jews assigned by the Mossad to message board monitoring? Do they each get like 6?

You moron, no one is censoring you. You're being asked to keep your dopey bull **** to a single thread, in line with what the TOS for the website asks. The board owner thinks it better if we can have single threads about specific things, rather than having dozens of threads about nothing in particular, which make conversation nearly impossible. Please try to limit your anti-Semetic and disjointed rambling to your one thread dedicated to it. Oh, and...

Well summarized. It's not a left vs. right issue. It's an issue of entrenchment, and the merger of polity and fiefdom. Power consolidates, and then enriches and protects itself. These people attend the same schools, are members of the same societies, travel in the same social circles. They golf and dine together. Much of the traditional pre-Trump divide was/is kabuki theater intended to fracture the country with manufactured outrage on both sides in order to build permanent baronies. As Carlin once said: "It's a big club, and you ain't in it."

He's right in that it was never their intent to separate families. It was their intent to stop human trafficking. The two statements are consistent.

To be fair, this is probably the first time in a month or more I've even bothered to look and see what his post said, and was immediately drawn in by the Constitutional issue. I am chastened.

https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_Am1.html