FireChan

This.

No.

I would consider them having more success than a team that can't win more than 8. Not the best team in the NFL, but if you make the playoffs, you're top 12.

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Ridiculous. If I'm Sage, I scream hate crime.

You're kidding, right? The Bengals have to compete with 2 very good teams every year in the Ravens and Steelers. In fact, the NFC North regularly puts out 2 playoff teams almost every year. When you have 3 teams that regularly compete for the division title, it ain't easy to always make the postseason. Yes, the Browns suck some years. Some years the Dolphins and/or Jets suck. Lame excuse.

Taking All In to a whole new level.

They should be. Sherman in this D would be a better fit than keeping Gilmore. I'll go on record now. If Whaley swings Sherman for less than a first rounder, I give him 2 years before I ask him to be fired again.

If it was still 94, I'd say we've been more successful. If TT had led us to back to back 11-5 and 10-6 seasons and two playoff appearances, he'd be considered a successful QB, there would be less debate, and he'd be making more money here because we would never pretend to consider letting him go. That's really it.

How many has each played in? How much double digit win seasons have each had?

Just looking at that list, it looks like more than what about 6-7 teams have.

You've agreed with me this whole time that Dalton is clearly better than TT?

Here is the problem. They are "pretty close" doesn't mean to you what it does to me. You see a WR who catches 100 balls for 1400 yards and 10 TDs and a WR who catches 80 balls for 1200 yard and 8 TD's and you don't think one is better than the other. I disagree. The stats bear out that Dalton is superior in just about every category. On a per throw basis, better. On a gross stat basis, better. On an eye test basis, better. On a consistent level on success in the NFL basis, better. He has thrown 3 more INT's. That's all TT has got. But it's easy to not throw picks when you play not to lose. The argument is not "would you take TT on the Bengals over Dalton on the Bills." The argument is that Dalton has clearly performed and played better than TT. The stats bear that out, repeatedly. Making the argument that 2 guys are "close" when 90% of the stats (not an exaggeration) are one sided is ridiculous. There is a reason that one was an MVP candidate in 2015. http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/183541/five-reasons-why-andy-dalton-is-the-leading-mvp-candidate Like come on please. Dalton has shown he can lead a team to 10+ wins repeatedly. He has shown he can bring a team back repeatedly. You can continue to do your exercise of demonstrating that TT is worse than Dalton in just about every stat you link and then telling me it's crazy to think he's obviously better. It's an interesting tactic. It's like telling me EJ's rookie year was close to Derek Carr's, except for all the numbers being better for Carr. Someone's bias is clouding their judgment here, but it ain't me.

Everything is voluntary.

I mean when every stat is better (you ignored fumbles lost), one is clearly better. Dalton has more TD's, less INT's, better YPP, better completion, less sacks, etc etc etc. You continue to post that TT is worse than Dalton in every single stat and you don't understand why he's clearly better? I forgot that was why TT with Sammy Watkins almost all year in 2015 was an MVP candidate and Dalton with AJ Green all year was a pleasant surprise who had to beat EJ and Cassel out in camp getting paid $600k a game.

You're welcome to look at YPA, sacks and fumbles too my dude. And GWD's/4QC. 32 out of 32 GM's take Dalton over TT. That makes it insanity, IMO.

I'm so impressed. You have 195 posts in this topic. You so comfortably have the lead, #2, #3 and #4 combined barely come close. Which means if Mahomes sucks, you're may have to change names

Oh Kirby, no. Dalton was an MVP candidate 2 years ago. TT was a pleasant surprise. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DaltAn00.htm http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TaylTy00.htm

Came here to say EJ was too high, but he didn't even make the list. TT > Dalton and Palmer is insanity.

I assume this means you're admitting your opinions are also worth nothing?

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It is the most likely interpretation.

TT restructured his contract because both he and his representation believed the Bills would cut him if he didn't, and that he would not command that money in FA.

The made up 7th number that's made on a faulty premise.