FireChan

I disagree with you both, Greg just happens to be more rational and correct, while you remain incorrect and fallacious.

Huh? We will see. I can understand both sides.

Not pretending Ortob is great or even good, but it's not as though teams weren't stacking the box and daring our QB's to pass in 2013. They weren't afraid of Thad and company. All of this is irrelevant to the fact that the QB who was under center for the Bills first winning record in a decade is no longer on this roster. There is no way to entertain the notion that this does not make us worse next season.

Then why did we average .5 YPC less?

Running game was half as productive.

When was the last time Erik Pears played football? 2012?

Everyone in the NFL is hyprocrticial. It's hypocritical to call out others' hypocrisy.

Folks care more about division rivals than other non-conference teams? Stop the presses.

And lost their starting QB. If Orton was still a Bill, I think we'd be ranked higher.

That's what I was thinking, you take a cap hit on the guaranteed.

Don't you have to pay the salary of the trade player for the season he is traded? Or just the guaranteed?

I think Gilmore could take Doug Baldwin out of the game. Leo too.

Pretty sure this was proven to be fake.

Cassell took over one of the best teams in NFL history too. It's actually a poor argument.

Had their number by going over .500 once?

Please don't tell me your evidence of that is the Cassell year. Change your thread title to "How do we get to Trent Dilfer's level," then.

Who has won more Super Bowls in that time span that is an active player?

Both can be out of the players' control and can have negative effects on their career. Is there a problem?

Seeing as alcoholism is a disease, it's not too different a circumstance from EJ's injuries.

Does Jameis have substance abuse allegations?

Right. I guess it's a risk/reward thing. Gotta weigh how long he'll play at a high level. I'd hate to be paying him a ton if he hits the wall and isn't great.

I can assure you, Manziel would have been drafted by just about every other team if Cleveland and Dallas didn't take him. In fact, I think Houston was hoping he'd be there at 33.

That's at most right?

I'm not angry, your opinions are just incorrect.

Johnny Football and Tebow were nothing alike as prospects. 0/2.