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B3, All the slots are perfect, but I said in another thread, Henry would be a perfect free agency add. Any edge rusher or #2 CB would be a lot more than Henry’s $10.6. His $10.6 mil. is possible, but then that means Milano walks. I’ve said all week, you get something, you have to give something up. TE’s don’t usually come out of a draft and just blow it up as a rookie. You know Henry is a proven winner. The other thing is of the doom and gloom cap comes to fruition, we might get him for less. Using you're first two picks in either order based on their board for an Edge Rusher and CB is smart. The only way you go for a RB in the first is if he is a game changer. I agree all four spots are important, and everything after that is depth. We were fortunate our 2020 later picks were valuable. Bass will be our kicker barring injuries for a decade. I firmly believe Dane Jackson will add to our DB depth for a long time as well. We hopefully can find gems on the O Line and possible LB later in the draft. One thing is for sure, if we went after Henry, that would be it for free agency other than just a guy at a bargain price.

Thanks Thurmon. Not a subscriber so can’t read it, but appreciate you’re snipits. I’ve been on the pulpit since last year when we missed going after Hooper, or we just did it unsuccessfully. He’s not Kelce, but he is a lot better than what we have now. I’m fine with dropping a couple of our TE’s and go after Hunter Henry. Of all the position groups, TE is much more affordable than Edge Rusher, CB, never a RB as they wear out too fast. Even with O Line, look how much Morse cost. The other reason is several TE’s need a couple of years to develop so why draft one, when you have a finished product. Remember Kelce wasn’t explosive his first couple of years out of the draft. There are exceptions, but having only three TE’s such as Henry, Knox, and take you’re pick (guessing Sweeney as he’s cheap and only depth). It’s not like we will morph into a Ravens team and run 13 personnel all the time. It’s crazy, but I can see us going after a fast RB in the draft, a CB, and an Edge Rusher. With the rest if they let Milano go, and I hope they don’t, the a LB. I wouldn’t expect much more than a Henry and just other guys for their depth as they purge some underperformers.

It seemed to me they became pidgeon holed into Allen passing 90% as all of their efforts throughout the season to run were unsuccessful. Whether it’s simply a faster RB, or in addition, bring back a very effective old school FB, or line, or scheme. The other part similar to what some others have written is they got cute. They should’ve trusted what brought them there, and all of the changes blew up in their faces. I trust these coaches will learn from it, and adapt next year. Reid is brilliant and he anticipated exactly what McD was going to do. That’s why it looked like the Chiefs looked like they knew everything Allen would check to and they adjusted in sync with our offense. Reid also knew McD well enough to know how he would try and change things up. A couple of the players may have been grinning etc. after the game, but they were the better team. We had a an excellent year, and we will keep improving in 2021.

Cherry picking games makes no sense, and seems like someone is trying to instill doubt. He’ll get paid and Beane will be creative in how he drafts the contract to not hurt the team in the lean cap year as he’s still on his 4th year rookie contract in 2021.

If I’m him Watson, my list to tell the Texans is the Dolphins, Bears, Rams, 49ers, Steelers, and Colts (which would never happen in division). These teams with a QB like him would immediately be a contender. There are different strengths to each of these teams. The one unfortunately that has the most to offer is the Fins. The Fins could make this work if they gave both #1’s and Tua. In essence three #1’s. Since the fins had 11 picks last year, and 10 picks this year, and all of those free agents last year, it would be a good deal for both sides. I’m not writing this like I want it to happen as I hate them, but it’s the most logical where each side gets something they want.

Which is why this foolish talk of Watson agreeing to consider the actual Jests is a comparison from one dumpster to another dumpster fire.

I was thinking the same on a fullback. It’s a boring underappreciated asset, but when we had a younger healthier DiMarco, we ran better. I know he retired, so I’m not saying him. We should find a good one as it will help, amd dump Smith. Just because he’s a blocking TE, that doesn’t help up the middle. Some say that’s Gilliam, but I didn’t see him used in this manner.

John and Greg, I’ve said this as well several times. Look how many people projected a Cam Patriots team as a winner and then what happens. SF, a SB attendee but was decimated with injuries. Who knew the Rams would be this good on defense? Who knew Seattle’s defense would fall off a cliff after attaining Jamal? This year, who knows a post Brees NO and so many players in their 30’s? What if Tampa, god I almost threw up a little beats the Chiefs. Will Brady retire and go out on top? What is Indy going to do about QB? After the draft, we’ll know who we gained and lost in both FA and the draft. What no one can predict is injuries. I almost felt bad for SF with all of those catastrophic injuries. They still finished with a top 5 defense. I would just enjoy the off season and we can probably talk more about how we really might do in May. It’s just depressing there is only so much we can talk about until May. Let’s hope and pray we have a good off season with acquisitions and come into next year stronger. I want to believe we can repeat a 13-3 2021 season and win the East again. Maybe Beane does so well we actually really make the SB next year. We’ll have to beat the Chiefs though. With some additional pieces, we might be able to do it. Howard and Jeremy made a good point this morning. They discussed how TE’s seem to be a developing position, so you don’t really see a guy progress often until year 3. Kelce has been a stud, but he developed slow. With that they discussed, TE being one of the few positions we could get an ascending TE in FA, and not being as expensive as say an edge rusher. This way we get a more finished product and draft the CB, Edge Rusher, RB, etc. If we hit on all four of these four slots, we would be markedly better and Star is back.

Agreed with the vaccines ramping up, I don’t see why they wouldn’t increase significantly next year. Josh is pretty special with one correction from one of the attachments. He had 46 TD’s as he had a receiving TD in addition to the 8 rushing and 37 passing. Isnt nice to know we won’t be one of the teams calling Houston for Watson. I haven’t felt that way since Kelly.

Epenesa has come in slow, but that doesn’t mean he’s a flop. Some guys develop into a solid player in years 2 and 3.

The problem is he has been injured a lot in his career even though he played almost all of the games this year. He’s also expensive and getting older at 31. Beane just said in his presser, this is not the year they are going to make any splashes. His name came up last year, and the year before. It’s not Beane’s M.O.. Just my take.

Thanks for ruining my night. 🤪. You’re right though. Houston is the gift that keeps giving. I know I was steadfast he’s not getting traded, but maybe. He’d have to go nuclear, and the coach and GM are going to get torched by the owner for not salvaging the situation. The football gods are against us. If I’m him (and I’m not), if the Fins make the right offer, that’s the place Watson would approve. The agent telling him, they turned around their team to 10-6 from 5-11, lots of young talent from last years draft and FA bonanza last year. Another 10 picks this year and they still have $26 mil. In cap space, why wouldn’t he want that destination? They have the $ to deal with his contract. The other would be SF. They have $12.5 mil. In space and just went to the SB last year. When their guys get healthy, it makes complete sense. I can’t see him approving a Jets trade. They have everything you want to make the deal, but that team is a hot mess. That actually would be best for us as even Watson can’t fix that team. So go J-E-T-S, Jets, Jets, Jets. Miami is a real threat. SF not so much so that would be second for me from a Bills perspective. We won’t see them for four years unless we both make the SB. Please not Miami as I still hate those guys from the 70’s.

He is such a Swiss Army knife. I know that’s Lorax’s nickname, but he’s a WR, Returner, RB for gadget plays, and even last year a CB. That was impressive. He’s under utilized. Its not like he costs a ton. He’s definitely a value investment. Considering in the Titans game Roberts showed he’s not a great WR, I’m doing a 180 on him. I originally thought because we were 1st and 4th in the league fir kick and punt returns he’s worth the pick. Now, knowing McKenzies worth as a WR, and a gadget guy, he’s probably a much more versatile guy.

John, I like you’re points. Regarding Star, I saw a precipitous loss of performance from Oliver and Edmunds when he was out as well as a loss of run defense. He’s one of those unsung heroes kind of guys. With Ford, if he is a solid Guard, that makes it that much easier to shed Morse’s contract and keep Mongo at a lesser price moving him to Center.

Ok, sound point. It’s too bad Hodgins wasn’t faster, but we will add him to the mix next season, so a second tall possession WR like Davis. I’ve seen some mocks as I always pledge never to look at that stuff until we’re out for this season about us taking a WR. I’m sure if we do and we are after speed, you’re wish may happen. We definitely need speed both at WR and RB, but I doubt they go for another RB in the draft unless it’s late in the draft. We have too many other needs to build on for the draft. I’ll tell you bud, the draft will determine who we cut. Once we see that, bodies will fall.

It was obvious Cleveland’s running game kept them in it. I can’t say their defense is better than ours as they finished the regular season 17th, and we were 14th. With that said, our defense played well in the Ravens game and ok with Indy. The Chiefs game was a joke for our defense. As much as I think the Chiefs are going to win, they are far more balanced than us. Solid defense, good passing game, but they can run when they need to unlike us. We’ll see. I just want a fun game now that we are out.

BTW, if any of you guys come to Tampa next year, I’ll meet up with any TBDers for an adult beverage (on you of course 🤪). TBH though I may be relocating back to Buffalo for another position in my field in the coming months. Still tbd, but I must be the only guy living in Tampa that would be excited living back in Buffalo.

House, I sometimes can’t tell if you’re kidding. I guess New Orleans NCIS is not a favorite show for you. That show has grown on me which is pretty much the only reason I know NOLA is New Orleans.

H2O, this is on the AFC rotation. In 2018, the last time we played the AFCS, the game was home, not in TN. Now in 2019 we had the same ranking for the South vs. East, and we were at home for the Broncos that year. Why the schedulers chose the Broncos at home and TN away is probably not high on their priorities. If it helps bud, they’ll have to come to Buffalo in 2024. Just to try and drive you nuts (just kidding), those sick son of a guns if we finish winning the East and they win the South, guess where are playing in 2022?

By the way, regarding the projections are missing something. Does anyone know? Guess. Yep, that’s right, it’s a 17 game season. Better redo all you’re projections. Me, it’s 20-0 baby! Mark the tape! You have the tar?

Oh man, now he won’t do it. I’m d.....d.

So who and at what cost are picking up two defensive linemen, blocking TE, and speed WR? If anyone suggest cuts which will happen, they’ll need to be replaced, so who they and what is the cost to each one? Remember there currently are only 8 draft picks, and you need at minimum $7 mil. For the draft, then another $5 mil. for an emergency fund in case of injuries. That’s $12 mil. there and we just came up in Spotrac as $6 mil. over. I don’t know why the flip from being $2.6 under just two days ago. Brown didn’t look healthy when he came back from his injuries. Only staff truly knows if he is still battling the knee/ankle injuries? I’m not a big fan of cutting a player who were as valuable in 2019 with over 1,000 yards, and we don’t know if he can get back to form in 2021 with rest and rehab. Ill grant you the others are just guys. I had high hopes for Jefferson, but I’ll grant you both were just guys. The coaches seemed to think there is value in Smith, although I don’t see it. I wholeheartedly agree an improvement from our TE grouping is needed to get to the next level. I appreciate the thoughtfulness, and I wasn’t picking on you, it’s just cut someone you have to replace them. Don’t worry, there will be 25 other guys doing something similar. I’d love if someone wants to cut people, the place in who they would add tha t are free agents, the potential costs as you can easily find on otc or spotrac, and what is the net cap as a result. I know I can’t do it, nor would I spend the time, and if I did it would get picked apart. You made a nice effort though so I appreciate it.

Blasphemy Doc, the Pats? 😄 I agree with you there will always be unexpected losses. Remember this year, everyone was commenting before the Titans that we would win because we beat them in 19, even though it barely against Marriotta. I guess this is why I don’t bet on football. Too many variable makes it too risky. A case in point the 4-11 Dolphins beat the Pats in week 17 of 2019. Anyone predict that one. It should be a fun year. Sad this one’s over, but only 1 fan base is happy every year. Go Bills!

John I was slammed months ago for stating a similar point. I knew then and now that is tampering and illegal, but you can’t prove either way unless Beane or McD copped to it. We go into the draft in 2017, fire Whaley the next day and poof there was Beane on May 9th. We’ll never know, but I can’t believe two friends weren’t having a private conversation or two regarding Tre. It doesn’t matter, my view is Beane has had solid drafts so why would I think this one will be different. No one has perfect drafts. No team, and there’s no way to say our late round picks will make it.