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Exactly. It’s likely unless he’s an thks tic freak we’ll have him for three excellent years and then his play will start to diminish and we’ll cut or reduce his comp. That’s three years of solid Edge Rushing performance. Sign me up for $17.3 mil./yr.

Guys: So many of us are conditioned from the drought, people get superstitious about projections, then the same people take an affront when we are not ranked high enough per whatever dumb power ranking, top 100 players, whatever. How the betting odds are going has no bearing on our success. It’s in the players, coaches and front office to get the right 53 on the field and the right utilization of their talents. I contend we have a winning organization, with winning Mgmt, and coaching. We have the most talent by far since the Kelly years, and even better only in that this Mgmt team has to deal with a hard cap and free agency. Polian and Marv didn’t have to deal with those issues until the end. We’ll be fine. There will be lots of time for predictions, but when my sons poll me I tell them most likely 12-5, conservatively if we have another Jags game, 11-6, and aggressively 13-4. This range is very doable. If we want the #1 seed though, we’d better hit 13-4.

I agree bud. The Singletary analogy I didn’t think applied, but didn’t want to be not picky as that was more of a personalized coach for a full off season getting someone in great RB shape, working on countless drills for months on first step forward etc. I’m sure you guys read those articles last year likening to the Jordan Palmer camp for Allen. I know Singletary spent a couple of months down in South FL dissecting his nutrition, running style, conditioning, and it worked. He looked transformed before the 21 season.

Exactly. It’s naive to think these players and their agents don’t shop the player around. Just because he said all the right things when coming to Buffalo, do you not think if he could’ve made the same $ in the town he grew up he wouldn’t consider it. This doesn’t mean Avon want sincere in his comments coming to Buffalo, and chasing another ring coupled with getting $120 mil. Wasn’t the right choice. Is he moving here like Thurmon and Tasker post career, doubt it. He also most likely is not here for the full six. If had to guess, we have him for two to three and then both sides reassess. It really doesn’t matter as he’s here now and we’re all in on the ring.

McD is doing what good leaders do. He’s providing the best talent around his coordinators. McD would never allow a breach of chain of command. Coaching decisions are with the blessing of the Pegulas and Beane, but make no mistake these are HC decisions. Do you think he didn’t cover this stuff in the interview process. As a leader the last 10 years you prepare for everything and keep an eye on day to day in the beginning to make sure things flow well. Brady knows his role, and Dorsey knows he can rely on his staff to assist with generating ideas, but decisions will be made by Dorsey unless McD jumps in the game and wants to insert a specific tactic. This is a great thing as McD keeps fortifying his coaching staff with experienced coaches.

Now that would be fine with me. WOF, HOF is laughable, but a one day signing retiring as a Bill is cool with me. He’s a fan favorite, and is unapologetic that. Hffal was his favorite stop. I read the article this morning too and thought the same. Win/win feel good half time thing and let the Bills fans have a blast with it. I see no harm, no foul on a one day signing.

Mark, that’s a good point. Going to Miami for that personalized coaching was more than just a camp. They spent months with him changing his nutrition, his foot work, and his leverage. I would liken that to the Jordan Palmer training for Allen that was ongoing on in the off season.

Guys not that weak. With that said, im glad he went there. As much as I think these academies can be fluff, Knox certainly improved after the TE one last summer.

You’re right. My apologies. My point was more so on how critical Milano is to our LB corp and the defense last two years looked different when he wa healthy and when he was out.

I like you’re list, but would replace Mario with Takeo. Moulds would be a great DK Metcalf type teamed up with Diggs and Davis. What a combination. Clements could lead as 2nd, and Elam can learn behind him. Takeo would replace Edmunds as a perfect ILB. Someone earlier said Takeo over Milano. Obviously a couple don’t realize how much of an impact Milano makes on this team as the Wil. Edmunds is not a Wil. He’s the Sam and Takeo was far better in the same role. This is not me indicting Edmunds simply Edmunds still has holes and is a make or been year for him. Thats my play along for this game. That would be a heck of a team, not that I’m not incredibly happy with the team we have this year.

I’m kind of surprised you guys are still talking about this topic. The case was closed and dismissed so its over.

Boater, you’ve helped add to an interesting conversation as Allen never had a losing record. He stood toe to toe against the vaunted Dolphins and Cowboys and won some of those games. He turned around the Rams who had 8 losing seasons and made them a winner. One of the nice things on this board is each of us can add to other conversations on the history of the NFL. Brandt was doing old fashioned analytics in the 60’s. He helped Landry win a couple of SBs in the 70’s and at least get there a couple more times, but just couldn’t beat the Steelers.

Sure, he was innovative and Bill Walsh credited learning a lot of his tenets of coaching from Allen. He was ahead of the game in analytics, and how he was ahead of his time in offensive schemes. That old coot.

I’m sorry Boater, it must have auto corrected, George Allen. He was a pioneer in the 70’s and earlier. He coached the Rams and Redskins.

I’m hopeful from what some have stated above that the improvement in athleticism, and the addition of Kromer who is a heck of a Line Coach that we go to a zone blocking scheme. It worked well for us in 2015 and 16. We can do more in this blocking scheme if we have the right players and maybe the line can punch those holes open for Singletary and Cook.

He’s on the Giants now. What’s he supposed to say other than finding ways to be positive, but not comparing the skill sets of Allen or Mahomes to him. Mahomes and Allen know it and they understand code for finding something positive to say. Besides Webb is the clip board king. He’ll be a QB coach one day.

I think you mean the USFL. Trump owned a team in that league. As far as Kelly vs. Allen well let’s wait til Allen gets to year 11 and then an easy comparison, and you’ll probably be right. As Parcels used to say, let’s not crown him yet or get the bust out. It’s a good metaphor to take the time as I’m sure Allen will probably go down at some point as the greatest Bills QB ever, but not yet.

Thanks Roy as it’s kind of cool she’s now in updates on NFLR when they do the little updates at the beginning or end of a segment among the hockey and basketball playoffs. I just that was kind of a sign on a national football radio show they are reporting on Kim Pegula’s progress. I expect that on WGR, but not on Sirius.

But, but Juno, Whaley had such a good eye for talent and so many people question if Beane can really draft well (insert sarcasm). Beane is by far and not even close the best GM we’ve ever had since Polian, and McD is the best HC we’ve had since Marv. Just look at the pics and the minority on here stop dissecting and looking for any little angle to knock either of them down. Have they missed on guys like Ford, back in 17 Zay, and trading for a couple of duds. Overall this is the most complete team we’ve had since the SB years.

Thats funny as he gets teased by some on this board as he is getting senile now and needs to get off NFLR, but HOF Gil Brandt was known for using analytics in the 60’s and 70’s for the Cowboys. It’s well documented by other people he was an innovator back then just like Paul Allen.

Well, Eman it’s not just that, but Kelly did play in a different era than the later guys mentioned by KJ. Montana, and Elway yes. The later guys had different rules that if a QB gets a hangnail the defender gets a penalty. No wonder the QB’s are Playing much later into their careers. It’s like the AB’s in the 60’s and early 70’s with only 14 games, and defenders could practically decapitate a QB. Forget the Deacon Jones ear slaps and WR’s practically getting sucker punched in the 70’s. It reminds me of a family dinner scene in Blue Bloods where Frank Reagan ?Selleck) and his dad, and he raised his voice to Henry saying “that’s like saying Mike Tyson can beat Ali in his prime, it’s a non starter”. It really is the same. Yes, if Kelly would’ve not gone to the Gamblers and went to the Bills in 83, he would’ve passed his stats, but remember the coach was Kay Stephenson, probably the worst HC in Bills history. I’m proud of Jimbo and respect him for what he brought to this city for all of these years when he played and how he has been a role model to our youth forever. Hence my avatar. Someday Josh will get there as he’s on his way. In 10 years with these rules and a little luck with no serious injuries, we will be talking us old guys as I’m only middle aged now, of getting to watch live the two greatest QB’s in Bills history. I can’t wait as I love Josh as our QB.

Analytics aren’t something new. They’ve been using analytics in some form for decades. I’m glad we made a commitment to the program, and it’s how McD uses it in games, and Beane in selections of players meeting McD’s requests for what they mutually believe will work to improve the team.

Should make you wonder when she’s trying so hard to convince you about you’re “analytics”, wink wink. That was funny.

I always hate to hear someone take their life, and if that is confirmed someday, it’s very sad. I remember him at his peak. He was solid, but that doesn’t matter anymore. Whether he was a career backup, or a starter, it’s still a sad ending.

Plain and simple, Dion is our franchise LT and this among other sources ranks him very high in the league. It’s myopic to overthink it in his COVID recovery. Look at his overall body of work. He’s not a problem on our line. Josh has had overall maybe except the beginning of last year been kept clean with Dion from that side. It’s nice that a very durable and skilled LT also is great for the Buffalo area in his community work. He’s embraced this community and will be there as long his body holds up for another 8-10 years.