
Iverwig
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What AJ Espensa peers say about facing him...
Iverwig replied to Alphadawg7's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
The more I see on this kid the more he is growing on me. I really think the Bills got a steal and a future all pro defensive player. -
Rd 5, Pick 167: QB Jake Fromm, Georgia
Iverwig replied to Hapless Bills Fan's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
How about watching a whole game and not a highlight video and then come back and comment. -
Rd 5, Pick 167: QB Jake Fromm, Georgia
Iverwig replied to Hapless Bills Fan's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I understand that and that was the point I was trying to make with the analogy. Regardless, I have seen Fromm throw multiple times in a game and he is no where near some of the other QB’s on that list come game day. I could be wrong but he appeared to be over thinking things which would affect his passing. This is what I encourage most of the posters here do. Anyone thinking Fromm is someone who is going to come in and unseat Allen or think he’s a long term NFL starter must not be looking at the same game tape. -
Bills sign FA safety/linebacker Mike Bell.
Iverwig replied to PIZ's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
His film looks impressive so hopefully the position switch works out better for him. -
Rd 5, Pick 167: QB Jake Fromm, Georgia
Iverwig replied to Hapless Bills Fan's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I have seen this list before but what we don’t know is the conditions the ball were thrown in and what determines the velocity. All I know is it only matters on game day. Example: You can take two baseball pitchers where one may throw 90mph on a radar but when the batter steps in they no longer throw 90 and may clock 84. Then you take someone who throws 86 and they will still clock 86 in the game. Before game day the most would take the 90mph pitcher all day. different sport I know but I find it hard to believe LJ clocks 49 and is drafted in the 1st round if this list was legit. -
Rd 5, Pick 167: QB Jake Fromm, Georgia
Iverwig replied to Hapless Bills Fan's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
No offense but when you say he lost multiple linemen that shows me you don’t know much about the UGA program. They had the best OL in the conference and top 3 OL in the country going into last year. You would be hard pressed to find anyone who had them not rated in the top 5 of the country. They had both their starting tackles drafted in the 1st round this year. Fromm has never been physically talented but he had always been a game manager. That’s why people were upset when Fields transferred to OSU because he was light years ahead of Fromm talent wise. If you go back to Fromm’s freshman year he wasn’t more talented then Eason he won due to Chubb and Michel being the backfield. UGA under Smart was always run oriented and great defense the way Alabama was before Tua. Fromm is AJ Mccaron. Did him losing talent around him hurt him some yes but it’s college football not the NFL. College power programs reload not rebuild. If Fromm was so great then why are many UGA fans happy that he left early? Did the offensive coordinator have issues yes but he changed somethings during the season and called some decent games but his QB missed the plays. I like Fromm and hope he does well but he is a game manager. I will ask you to go back and watch every UGA game this year and focus on Fromm. He rarely throws over the middle which is a reason why his number suffered. Receivers were open over the middle and the secondary receivers were open all season long and he refused to throw the ball or look there way. Him throwing balls in the grass or at the receivers feet has nothing to do with a lack of talent on the offensive side of the ball. Fromm also showed tendencies of being a one read QB which is odd considering the fact he played behind arguably the best pass blocking OL in the country and had all day to throw. I again hope he does well as he is a great person and outstanding leader but I challenge you and anyone else to go to YouTube and watch every UGA game this year and decide for yourself. If you haven’t watched UGA play consistently then don’t come with something you read or heard about. Don’t look at the numbers especially for a college player as it does not tell the whole story. There is a reason he was passed on by so many teams and was not selected until the 5th round. I guarantee you outside of Burrow, Tua and Hurts JF had the most talent around him but yet he was the 8 or 9 QB taken. Kirby preferred game managers at QB to protect his defense but with Monken coming in this year we, UGA, fans hope he allows the offense to open up. I do find it odd that Buffalo drafted him due to the potential bad weather in Buffalo because JF normally played poorly in bad weather. However, once again I hope it works out for him as I am a Bills fan and believe he can be a big help to Allen. -
Rd 5, Pick 167: QB Jake Fromm, Georgia
Iverwig replied to Hapless Bills Fan's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Some program insiders said he had a tired arm but it could have been a combination of that and Cager being hurt. Whenever Cager played that is who Fromm locked in on but when Cager was hurt he was horrible. The odd thing is Fromm was known to pass the ball around to multiple receivers but last year was a different case. -
Rd 5, Pick 167: QB Jake Fromm, Georgia
Iverwig replied to Hapless Bills Fan's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Yes, he did but it’s not like he had chopped liver to work with. He had an experienced TE, Cager was his main go to guy up until he got hurt and Pickens while a freshman was more talented than any receiver UGA ever had since AJ Green. Regardless that had nothing to do with him short arming throws. I hope he does well and makes the active roster but right or wrong there is a reason many UGA fans are happy he left early. I will say while many are happy he left school early most knew he would not be a high draft pick. -
Rd 5, Pick 167: QB Jake Fromm, Georgia
Iverwig replied to Hapless Bills Fan's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I wonder how many on here have watched UGA play a game this year. Fromm was not the same QB as he was in previous years. As a UGA fan I will say Fromm is a great leader, hard worker and as smart as any QB around. With that being said Fromm does not have a strong arm and struggled throwing the ball in bad (rainy) weather. I often wondered if he was injured this year as a lot of his balls hit the dirt before getting to the receivers where that wasn’t an issue in the past. I will add Fromm seemed to regress as a player but I do believe much of his issues was with pressure from UGA fans. However, in the right system he can be a decent QB but I don’t think he will ever be a long term starter. He should be able to unseat Barkley and if he ever has to go in the game upon a Allen injury he will be ready mentally. -
Rd 5, Pick 167: QB Jake Fromm, Georgia
Iverwig replied to Hapless Bills Fan's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
He reminds me more of Barkley. -
Rd 5, Pick 167: QB Jake Fromm, Georgia
Iverwig replied to Hapless Bills Fan's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I will say Jake struggles in bad (rainy) weather. -
Rd 5, Pick 167: QB Jake Fromm, Georgia
Iverwig replied to Hapless Bills Fan's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
As a UGA fan I will say Barkley 2.0 but younger and smaller hands. -
2020 NFL Draft: Round 1 discussion
Iverwig replied to YoloinOhio's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I don’t think anyone is saying he will be top 10 right out the gates. Truth be told he’s in a good spot to sit for a year so he may not play until year two at the earliest which will give them time to get weapons. -
Keep in mind Tua has been doing the same thing since he was a true freshman. Also, Hurts was a returning national championship winning QB in Tua's freshman year and fans were calling for Tua to start half way through the season because he was that much better than Jalen Hurts. I say that to note that Hurts who will be drafted as a QB had the same players/talent around him and did not look no where near as good as Tua. If you are talking about Tebow in college that is not true because he WAS the reason Florida was so successful. Tebow in the NFL is a different story but if Tebow is not playing for UF they do not win a championship.
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2020 NFL Draft: Round 1 discussion
Iverwig replied to YoloinOhio's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I agree with you in that if Tua stays healthy he will be a beast. If healthy he will be top 10 in the league. I think people are focused on his injuries too much and many may not have seen him play often. When healthy he is the real deal. I did not want Miami to take him and would have preferred they take Herbert. -
Tua if healthy will be a Star. Stud receivers or not he was very accurate since he was a True freshman. He is special but we don’t know if he will be able to stay healthy.
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I find it funny how people have short term memories around here. I recall several people during the middle of the season stating if we had Fitz the Bills would definitely make the playoffs. I really like Allen but he also struggled at times last where Fitz would have been more reliable. Do I think Fitz will have the same year this year he had last year? No, because for as good as he has been he has been just as bad at times. Would I trade Allen for Fitz? No, but I don't think it is far fetched that he could very well be the best QB in the division next year.
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My condolences go out to you and your family.
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Bills trade for Diggs - jw no discussions on a restructure
Iverwig replied to Reed83HOF's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
They definitely are because we would. -
Problem is Fromm did not have that great of a year and just on measurements he wasn't going to get drafted before Eason and Love. With the new offensive coordinator UGA has he would have put up better numbers. Not that fans are experts but it says something to me when many of them are happy that a 3 year starter who took the team to a championship is celebrating a QB transfer from W. Forest. Granted the transfer is no slouch but either way Fromm was never going to get drafted before the second round as he has pretty much always been a game manager. This year could have allowed him to show he could be consistent as a passing QB. My main concern with him is he sucks in bad weather, he had a horrible record when he had at least 30 passes thrown in a game and he was burned out by being criticized by UGA fans. With that being said I believe this draft will produce at least two decent QB's in Burrow and Tua. Tua is legit but like you mentioned can he hold up physically because he is definitely injury prone. If not for his injuries he would be the first QB I would take. I hope the Dolphins do not take him with their pick. Herbert has the potential to be good and the senior bowl truly helped his stock go up. Eason is hit and miss. If you get a dedicated Eason he will be good but not great.
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Tua declares for the draft; do you want Miami to take him?
Iverwig replied to krf139's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Not a chance the Bengals don't take Burrow. They will have a mutiny on their hands in Ohio if they don't take Burrow. Tua will NOT go number 1 as long as the Bengals have the first pick.